It's not a dead horse though. And I don' think the thread was intended to start a debate. I'm sorry if you've taken it that way. And actually, I have learned what other JDRF chapters are doing which I had NEVER heard before, and I have seen things and links to things JDRF was doing that I have never seen before. So, yes, it has been educational. I don't have my mind made up one way or the other on JDRF. I still have a vested interest in JDRF. I have donated to them and I expect my donations to be used towards research. I have never said that I will not be supporting JDRF. They still support research which I am following very closely. Considering that, I think I'm allowed to express dismay with the organization. They work for me. They work for all of us who have walked and sold things and had lemonade stands. All the children and adults. They work for us. So, no, I am certainly not persuading donations elsewhere. I have never done that. I have always supported JDRF, ADA and DRI - I think they all do things in different ways and for different reasons. Unlike you, I do not think that they are making the best decisions they could be making. That's opinion. And you're right, none of us here really know.