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So how much does 15g carbs actually raise your child's BG level?

Discussion in 'Parents of Children with Type 1' started by zell828, Mar 5, 2008.

  1. zell828

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    I know in the books it says 1 g will raise an adult's 3-5 points. But what about kids? What is your experience?
     
  2. Sarah Maddie's Mom

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    On average 4 oz juice or 4 tabs brings her up about 50 points. But it depends on why she's low and how low and a few other variables
     
  3. kel4han

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    WHAT? That is crazy! 4c raises Maddison about 40pts so 15c would equal about 150-160pts. That is assuming she is sitting steady with no activity.
     
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    the books are not always correct when it come to kids. even the famous 500 rule and 2000 rule.
    let's see... Ali's lunch ratio is 1:41. his isf is ~200. so 41 carbs raise him about 200 points. 1 carb ~5 points.
     
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    Thanks. I see in my hospital book it says if they are below 50 you could give 30 g of carbs for a faster rise. So it got me wondering.
     
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    Oh, I see now you have a diagnosis of 2-8-2008. I understand you questioning this now......each child is individual. We learned pretty quick to log how much 15 carbs brought Maddison up. The 15 c rule is way off for most, unfortunately. It would be great if there was a magic amount that always worked ;)
     
  7. zell828

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    No problem. We've had to treat lows a few times and the difference (about an hour later) was around 50-51 for us. So do you think this is typical for her now or is it usually different every time?
     
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    15g raises Julia around 140 pts. If you are treating a low, specially after a correction you have to take into consideration how much insulin is still working, and treat for that as well. Exercise, stress, ect... all have to be factored in and that is why it is easier to tell you to treat with 15g every 15 minutes as needed.
     
  9. kel4han

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    Well, it would depend on if you have an active bolus from eating, if food was overdosed for, if food is still digesting, if basals are too high for a time of day, and if the child is being very active. As well as so much more! That is what makes Diabetes a beast! There is just soooo much to consider! But yes, if there is no active insulin from food and basals are set right then that *should* be correct for your child ;)
     
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    Using Insulin says 1 gram may raise children 6-8pts. But YDMV.

    15 gr will raise Nick about 120pts.
     
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    15g would raise Jess about 130 pts.

    if we are treating low, depending how low, we use about 8 carbs
     
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    This all depends on how low Kelton was in the first place..If he is 60, then 15 carbs raise him to 85, however, if he is lower than 50 many times it takes over 30 carbs to bring him above 80

    It all depends on the kid.

    For me 15 carbs will bring up me up 20-30 points, depending on what I take.

    Did any of this make sense? I am very tired
     
  13. Kirsten

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    As others have said this does vary. I would not start out using 15g for treating lows. Initially, we used 8g to treat for lows. You will quickly get a sense for your child. it is very easy to over treat lows in the beginning.

    GL!

    Kirsten
     
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    I carb = 5 points here.
     
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    Joey is 8-10 pts per carb, assuming he is basal only.
     
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    1 carb = 7-8 points for Mia
    15 carbs = 110- 120 points
     
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    Assuming Jacob is not dropping and has leveled off, about 150 points for 15g.

    There are plenty of times where 15g has not brought Jacob up at all. This is because his BG was still dropping at the time. Then it is possible that a second juice will bring him up 150 points because the first one leveled him off.
     
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    It's hard to say. Assuming that he's be steady otherwise, 15g of carbs would raise him about 100-130 mg/dl. Now he is 3.5. When he was 22mo @ Dx 15g raised him 270 or more. When he was low in the hospital the genius doctors gave him 15g b/c that's what it says in the books and when he went crazy high they said this is the typical rebound phenomenon. Yeah, right. BS.

    Kids are different from adults and even health care professionals do not necessarily realize that unless they have lots of experience with young kids -- which is not that all frequent at all, unfortunately.
     
  19. Lizzy731

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    Too much...we never use 15 G. I usually use 8 if she's very low. Or 4-6 if she is marginal. However, in the evening her sensitivity is 180 so she does need more carbs at BT snack to bring her up if she's low.

    Btw, she's 3 1/2, 42" & 40 lbs.
     
  20. wilf

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    Every child is different, and the only way to really establish how much 15 g of carbs brings them up is to run a simple test with them. Try to find a time when only basal insulin is working (and no food digesting), feed them 15 g of carbs, and test BG afterwards to see how far BG rises and how fast.

    At our end, 15 g of carbs raises DD's BG by about 60 mg/dL.
     

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