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Discussion in 'Parents of Children with Type 1' started by susan, Aug 11, 2009.

  1. susan

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    Who would you say had more authority regarding your child's care, the school nurse or principle..The reason I ask is because I went to meet the teacher for the second time and she said the principle had talked to whoever at the county and they said his teacher could check his bs but not give insulin(even though he is on the pump)..Which is fine that's really what I wanted because I didn't want him walking to the nurse if he was low..So today I also meet the nurse, who by the way is NOT the same nurse I trained on his pump 2 months ago-I think maybe they should have let me know there was a new nurse but anyways..She was NOT very happy that his teacher is going to be checking him, she asked who the principle talked to and I wasn't sure but told her who I thought and she said that's the 504 director she doesn't decide where his supplies are..School starts tomorrow and we are going to go with what we have talked about, teacher checks him and nurse gives the insulin after lunch..His 504 meeting is next Thursday, but if the principle, teacher and 504 director say it's ok then can the nurse stop it..
     
  2. frizzyrazzy

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    I would say none of the above. YOU have the most say. If something is not working the way you want it, voice your concerns.. don't let it become a battle between the nurse and the principal with your child stuck in the middle. Make the nurse know that this is what YOU want and that the principal is just following the orders and accommodations that your child needs. :) Hang in there..sounds like you might have a bumpy start, but I'm sure it all will work out. :)
     
  3. danismom79

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    Really, it sounds like she thinks someone else is doing her job.

    On the other hand, the only person I ever talked to about my daughter's 504 was the nurse. We looked it over, signed, then met with the teacher to let her know what was in it. Never even spoke to the principal.
     
  4. Heather(CA)

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    Where I live...It's the principal. We had a VERY annoying county nurse tell us Seth HAD to use a pen, not syringes. The principal over-ruled her in 2 seconds flat:D Ha Ha:D
     
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    Every school distract is going to have their own "chain of command" regarding things like this. Many school distracts have like a "health director" that would over rule both likely.
     
  6. Seans Mom

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    Just my 2 cents, I go to K registration to meet the teacher tomorrow and have no idea still how they are going to work with me on anything. :rolleyes:

    If the only problem is who will do the b.s. checks, then if the nurse wants to do them she should come to the classroom to do them. If she's willing to do that just to keep from feeling like her toes are being stepped on then I say let her do it. At least you know someone is checking him. :)

    At this point I just wish I had one person saying I'll do it !! All I've gotten so far is that "he will be taken care of" but not one detail on how they intend to make sure of it.
     
  7. susan

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    I am going to tell her if she wants to be the one checking him I don't mind but she is going to go to his class to do it..I don't feel comfortable having him walk with another 5 year old across the school to the nurse..I know Davis he will never make it there and back before the end of the day, He would stop and smell ALL the roses..:D
     
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    I know in our district, the principal rules the school. I found this out when our old nurse needed to send a child home with a temp over 100.0. It was on a day of state testing, and the principal called the nurse and told her not to send the child home. Also, I know that the principal can decide what medications are ALLOWED to be dispensed. I think in most cases, the principal is not going to assume to know more than the nurse, but ya know how that goes....

    I say, if the teacher is willing, and the principal signs off on it, go for it! Just don't make the nurse mad if you don't have to. Teachers will change every year, but the nurse may not!
     
  9. susan

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    I agree with this and I should have been nicer. But when I went in there and she started with an attitude I couldn't help it. She said no one talked to her about it, which they should have, but that's not my fault. I trained one nurse no one let me know there was another one. She had no idea who Davis was or the fact that he was diabetic on an insulin pump. School starts tomorrow, someone should have let me know that so I could train her! I think that's what makes me the maddest, had I not stopped by to give her his school packet I would have had NO idea that the nurse I trained was no longer there. Thankfully, the teacher is fully trained which is the only reason I'm not having major panic issues right now..
     
  10. alismom

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    In our district-principal decision rules over school nurse-BUT District Office decisions rule over ALL.;)
     
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    It seems that the school is putting you where you don't need to be, that is in the middle of their chain of command and possibly politics. I think a meeting with the principal is in order tell her/him why and ask them if the nurse needs to be there.
     
  12. Vi'sMom

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    At our school it's the Princepal. not the nurse period. but then again she's only around maybe half a day once a week. Our 504 is written that I or the endo has final say period. (done the battle already with the school, the nurse, ect)
     
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    Each state has different rules and regulations regarding health care at school. While it may be federal law that the care has to be provided - it is up to the state to figure out HOW to provide that care. In some states, the nursing regulations might prohibit anyone but the nurse to do certain tasks. If the school does not have a nurse - then they are obligated to provide one.

    The principal is ultimately responsible for making sure that someone is in the school to provide the care but the nurse can sometimes determine who that someone is.

    This is why the advice offered here ("at my school we do this....") is often so variable - because those on the list are in different states. Our nursing regulations are all different.

    Regardless of what the nursing regulations are in your state, the public school (principal) is required to provide care (someone to test when needed, give insulin, give glucose and glucagon for lows and emergencies). If it is determined that the teacher should not be routinely assisting with the glucose checks - another option can be considered. In any case, your child should be with an adult at all times if they are low or may be low (not escorted to the health room by another child) - and care must take place in a timely manner.
     
  14. shirley83006

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    seems like the nurse may have a problem with others doing her job. anyways, why should she care. everyone including the teachers should be able to help with the D students. and that is wonderfull. If its something that you dont mind. it should be allowed. Does you child know how to do this. Perhaps, get the doctor to sign a permission form that you child is able to test him or herself. and should be allowed a meter. and if the teacher wants to help fine. Its better than going to the nurse all the time and risking yourself to any other problems.
     

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