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New Medtronic pump approved

Discussion in 'Parents of Children with Type 1' started by dshull, Sep 27, 2013.

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    Only thing you have to keep in mind is Gary tried this with the old Medtronic or Guardian. I was told my rep today the New pump has different algorithms that would make accuracy better. They told me the Enlites though more comfortable would not give better accuracy using with old products off label.
     
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    Hmm, not sure I would want to do that until it is actually cleared to be used with the system.

    I think we'll use the 530G as her pump without connecting to MySentry. And turn on the Revel at night to transmit to MySentry.

    (It will be interesting to see what is the difference in the readings for the 503G and the Revel.)

    I'm very exited about this pump, despite its lack of increased volume. The LGS is a welcome thing when dealing with a hypo unaware cwd.
     
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    This is probably a pretty dumb question,but....
    When will the 530g actually be available for purchase?
     
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    I believe it is now, should start shipping the 10th of October. If you order now I am not sure when you will get it though.
     
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    My son came into the room last night and said "So, the FDA approved the first Artificial Pancreas." I was like "Nuh Uh." and his Mom was like "No way." He showed us the article and we read it aloud and he replied "So, they added a couple lines of code and called it an Artificial Pancreas? That's lame."
     
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    If the medtronic cgm has newer, better algorithms, it would behoove medtronic to do a study showing off their accuracy. It would be very very hard for me to change from Dexcom G4.
     
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    There have already been studies, and the G4 accuracy is better.
     
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    I'm speechless. It sounds like Medtronic really is not offering a stand alone pump anymore. I have no clue what they are thinking. I know people had mentioned that here but I hadn't really believed medtronic would be that dumb.

    From the comments section of their blog post:

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    http://www.loop-blog.com/blog/MiniMed-530G-with-Enlite-Your-Top-Questions-Answered
     
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    What they want is to (1) be able to automatically sell a CGM system every time they sell a pump; and (2) prevent people who want to pump with MM, but use a Dex from being able to get insurance coverage for their Dex.

    I think it's short-sighted, but they have more information available to them than I do, and I have to believe they crunched the numbers on this. Or they're desperate. Either way, LOL.

    ETA: On the one hand, I'm grateful to MM for the 5 years we had their pump and CGM. Both pumps we owned were solid, dependable workhorses. And until the G4 was released, I do think the CGM was the best available option. But Medtronic has seriously lost their way, and I no longer have confidence that they are the company with the best technology.
     
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    I simply can't understand how this would be sustainable for them. There are plenty of people who want to pump but who don't want to CGM or don't have insurance coverage for CGM. So you're telling me they are REALLY going to deny a pump to someone? They're really going to tell the consumer "sorry, out of luck."

    I really don't believe it.
     
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    I suspect if someone can't get insurance coverage for the CGM, they'll sell them a pump without it. But this is a way to get people to try to get coverage for it who really aren't interested in it.
     
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    I think Medtronic is on the extreme defensive side when it comes to covering themselves with FDA issues.

    Also, if Medtronic is going to "force" you to get the CGMS bundled with the pump, I would call your insurance company and have them tell Medtronic to tell Medtronic "no" because their CGM is not medically necessary, especially when you have a CGM (i.e. Dexcom) that already works. I mean, the insurance company does not like paying for claims anyways, so the insurance company would be interested and would advocate on your behalf.

    Also, I don't understand how they could "bundle" an item that is not necessary, especially if you are having success with a Dexcom CGM, if determined so by a MEDICAL DOCTOR. I would think the FDA would be all over them for that.

    Medtronic may be committing fraud (I do not know the laws, though). This is certainly unethical of them, especially when a MEDICAL DOCTOR recommends therapies and prescribes NEEDED devices. The doctor and the insurance company should get the final say, in this circumstance, after a treatment approach has been agreed upon. You can always try reporting this as "fraud" to your insurance company or state's attorney general, via an online form. After all, it would be fraud to force somebody to pay for Medtronic's CGM if the insurance company did not cover it anyways. However, this really could be consumer or insurance fraud (or both), since both the consumer and the insurance company are paying, but I am no lawyer.

    Wikipedia Definition of Insurance Fraud:

    Insurance fraud occurs when any act is committed with the intent to fraudulently obtain some benefit or advantage to which they are not otherwise entitled or someone knowingly denies some benefit that is due and to which someone is entitled.

    Wikipedia Definition of Medical Necessity ("Medically Necessary"):

    Medical necessity is a United States legal doctrine, related to activities which may be justified as reasonable, necessary, and/or appropriate, based on evidence-based clinical standards of care.

    (Probably determined by MEDICAL DOCTORS and ultimately insurance companies, NOT medical device manufacturers.)
     
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