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Excessive bathroom breaks?

Discussion in 'Parents of Children with Type 1' started by samheis, Sep 23, 2011.

  1. samheis

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    My son is in 3rd grade.
    He is having some difficulties, and I met with his teachers to conference.
    His math teacher is very stern, that's fine.
    But the first thing she expressed concern with is that Sam will leave to use the bathroom once during her hour and a half with him. She feels this is unnecessary, and went so far as to suggest bringing in a 'specialist' to talk with me about it not being necessary.
    I cut her off and said we will discuss this at a later point. I wanted time to gather my thoughts. And I was there to discuss his education, not his bathroom habits.

    I am uncertain if this should even be an issue. So please, help me gather my thoughts. Should I suggest to Sam he learn to hold it during his time in her class? My concern is the class is during that post breakfast spike time...(which is not what I am posting this to discuss :D) His homeroom teacher expressed that it is not an issue during her times with him.
    Thank you.
     
  2. emm142

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    I'd probably pick other battles, unless you think he's deliberately doing this to get out of class. High BGs cause frequent urination, and that's that. Unless you can get rid of the high, he will probably keep having to pee then until he gets older and better at holding it.
     
  3. caspi

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    While we don't have a 504 yet (yes, I'm a big procrastinator, lol!) all of my son's teachers know that he has the right to use the bathroom whenever he needs to. I send out an email every year with bullet points of things he is allowed to do (snack in class, bathroom breaks, have a water bottle) and we have never had any issues.

    I would recommend you explain to the teacher that due to his Diabetes, he may need to use the bathroom more often. Now if this is becoming a matter of him going every 15 minutes or so, then that's another issue. ;)
     
  4. swimmom

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    Is he gone an excessively long time from the classroom? If he needs to "go" and is efficient about taking care of business and getting back to class, then that's a different issue than a child who takes the scenic route back to class. Has he tried to make a point of going to the bathroom before her class? Even if he was a couple of minutes late, it might be less disruptive then leaving in the middle. The teacher may have a legitimate concern that he is missing important instruction time. Since math builds, he may come back and be a little behind the rest of the group.
     
  5. bnmom

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    That's my question. Unless the teacher thinks he's going somewhere other than the restroom, then just remind her its part of his illness.

    There are kids that will take advantage though. Like...umm...my son. :eek: He just served detention for abusing his D hallpass.
     
  6. Lisa P.

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    Why does your son say he's out? Does he consider it a problem? Does he feel like he's missing work? Does he feel like he's just in the habit?

    I know a lot of kids ask to go to get out of class, etc. If you're boy is doing this, it doesn't make him evil, it's just kind of normal, and something I'd deal with at home -- tell the teacher he should be allowed to go on request but tell your son he needs to not abuse that policy or it will be changed.

    But if he really feels he needs to go, I think the teacher needs to be given a copy of something that explains how the kidneys work when you have diabetes, and an explanation of what a post-meal spike is, then directed to the 504 if it says in there he needs to have access to water and a bathroom when he feels he needs it.

    Here's a great explanation about the kidneys, I was very impressed!

    http://forums.childrenwithdiabetes.com/showpost.php?p=759522&postcount=48
     
  7. samheis

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    Thank you for the responses guys : )

    She did not say he was gone for too long, or that she felt that he was taking advantage. Her comment was that she did not feel that ANY of the students should need to leave during her instruction time as they have opportunities both before and after her class to use the restroom.
    I did send his teachers the letter at the beginning of the year-which she referenced.

    This is a tough one for me, as I know he needs all the instruction time he can get, but it sort of feels like this teacher is not understanding that it is the disease that causes the frequent urination, not bad habits.
     
  8. emm142

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    I think this teacher needs to be informed that her one size fits all policy is not suitable for your child. I feel semi-strongly about this because when I was younger I had a medical problem (not D) which made me have to pee a lot, and teachers who wouldn't let me out of their classes gave made me feel constantly anxious. And it was far more distracting for me to be sitting there needing to pee but not able to leave class than it would have been for me to leave for a minute and then come back and be able to concentrate fully.
     
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    Ok specialist? Really? :rolleyes: I would as politely as possible remind her that he does already see a specialist with whom you consult on a regular basis(thank you very much). And politely remind her that as stated in your start of the year email, frequent urination is part of T1 Diabetes and using the bathroom is not only sometimes very necessary, but is his right under the law. Good luck to you.
     
  10. MamaBear

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    Me too.Thank you to a teacher who refused letting me use the bathroom, I ended up in the ER with a kidney infection and a bladder infection one night. Yeah lady I wasn't faking I really needed to go! :( Thankfully (as far as I know) my kidneys are ok now. Also both of my children had urinary tract issues as infants/toddlers which required medication and trips to a children's hospital, so I tend to be a bit defensive when a teacher claims a child is taking unnecessary bathroom trips, even if it isn't my own child they are talking about.
     
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    Your son is in 1st grade? Seriously, this teacher needs to get over herself. When he's got to go, he's got to go. Get over it lady!
     
  12. Lisa P.

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    Why does your son say he is leaving the classroom?:cwds:
     
  13. samheis

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    Sorry, he's 8 now, 3rd grade ( i should really update that:cwds:)

    To be fair, I feel part of this is just her personality-she seems the type of teacher to have a bottom line-her students success.

    Lisa-very good question, one I weighed early on. But just to check myself, I just went and asked him casually why he would excuse himself to go to the bathroom during class. He look confused and said 'so i can go pee?' Of course I took the golden moment and we talked again about doing his business and getting back to class quickly. He does tend to 'mosey' along-not on purpose, it's just his gait, so I wonder if that is part of the issue here.

    :D This is my fist real issue at this school so I consider my family blessed. Thanks for your advise so far.
     
  14. Lee

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    So, do you think he goes to the bathroom alot? Does he seem to drink excessively? If yes, I would ask a couple of different tests - a urine test to rule out a bladder infection, and a Diabetes Insipidus test to rule that out as well.
     
  15. Becky Stevens mom

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    Anita, do you have any idea how many times Sam goes to the bathroom while he's in school for the whole day? If its not excessive its probably what you were saying, the post breakfast spike hits and his BG rises and he has to urinate. Or maybe she is so dang intimidating to that little fella that she makes him have to go to the bathroom:( When I was younger I had an issue with frequent urination. Having teachers discuss it with me or my Mother only made it worse. It was something I had to grow out of eventually.
     
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    To me this does sound like she may not be understanding completely. If it were me, I would be careful, because of his age, how much time you spend on this with him. I'd watch this closely, briefly feel out your son and definately get a 504 put in place for him. Then move on.
     
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    once in an hour and a half isn't excessive. I'd explain to her that because of diabetes he'll have to go to the bathroom more often, he's not to be denied bathroom access. I would mention or suggest to her that if its he's going more than that consistently that she let you know..
     
  18. swimmom

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    If it's a time of day issue (he doesn't usually leave during other classes), maybe his schedule could be changed so that he has math at a different time of day.

    Otherwise, I think I'd just be very firm with this teacher that it's a medical necessity and make sure she didn't bully my kid about it.
     
  19. Lisa P.

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    That's hilarious! :p I love it.

    Yeah, I think the problem is the teacher's and she can get over it. :DI am sorry you went in for information on your kid's education and got talked to about her classroom management problems instead.:( I'm sure you'll work it out just great!:)

    (oops, I think I maxed out on smilies).
     
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    I'd probably print out something and take to her explaining about how t1's tend to need to potty a lot.
     

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