Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Jparr, Feb 2, 2013.
I think it is my turn to say I dont get what you are saying.
Please educate me about how I was wrong in the death of my dad. I am a pretty smart cookie. And I have a wicked sharp memory. So I tend to know what happened pretty well. Why you, who were not there, not even in the same state, have no clue. So please educate me.
How do people have options?
Isn't medical care supposed to be delivered and determined by doctors?
I don't think it is supposed to be dictated by the gov' ment, in any way or form--or even insurance companies, for that matter.
So I would imagine that universal access to healthcare is supposed to be delivered by need, with doctors determining how somebody needs services and treatments. This is how this is supposed to be. This should be determined by need based on the aliment, and nothing else. The same has to go with delivery of care in order for this to be true.
You are NOT kidding! J is on All Kids, which is subsidized. DH lost his job just a few months before J was dx, which is when we put him on All Kids. I'm sure if it wasn't for AK, we would still be paying off the hospital bills from dx, not to mention all the insulin, etc. And a pump would be out of the question.
Obamacare cost are going to affect everyone.
Medical professionals are concerned about the impact of new system.
Pros and cons
Yes! I think it would be beneficial for everyone to ignore those who would like to cause trouble.
I appreciate your feedback on Obamacare.
Do you have the option to buy a 3 month supply and save? I have not gone through the Walmart pharmacy. If we order through our insurance, we can save $$. Our insulin is still very affordable going that route.
Lakeman. My clients are not lying to me. I see all of their financial information. We have to provide it to the other side in the divorce. If you think that an uninsured family of four can pay for all of their basic needs and cover health care expenses entirely out of pocket for $22,000 a year in Illinois, you are absolutely completely delusional. The fact that you are comparing it to your father supporting his family on that amount, what? 40 years ago? is so completely irrelevant and baffling to me that I don't even know what to tell you. There's obviously no sense arguing with you further on this point, because you simply will not accept that my experience in this regard is truthful.
As for whether you are privileged or not, the word privilege is used in exactly the manner I am using it in the academic world. You can pull out your dictionary definition (which actually supports the academic definition I have been using), but it doesn't change the fact that my point stands. You cannot simply expect everyone to react optimally to every situation when not everyone was given - yes GIVEN the same tools to do so. So call it privilege, call it luck, call it God's plan...whatever. The fact of the matter is that you and I will never know some of the hardships, predjudices and barriers to quality health care that many of the people we are discussing have. Ever heard the phrase "He was born on third base and thought he hit a triple"? I'm thinking that phrase was coined to describe you.
Again, what is your point? I, personally, would be willing to pay a bit more so that everyone has better access to quality healthcare. So just telling me that the costs are going to affect everyone isn't really saying anything at all.
I think before we critique how people pay for services the inequity of reimbursement needs to be addressed to get at the root of the escalating problem. How providers are reimbursed is based on productivity and performing procedures. The health care organizations are pushing primary care to see more patients and encouraging them to make more referrals to meet the bottom line because Medicare and Medicaid payment is so much lower then even a PPO or HMO and limited payments by the uninsured. A specialist can charge more when they consider the visit a consult and they get reimbursed at a higher rate for doing some of the same procedures a primary care provider can do such a joint injection or a skin biopsy.
A primary care provider can spend 5 minutes with a wart trt or a hour with an elderly person with five chronic health problems and make a lot more treating warts or urgent care needs that are quick.
I don't have answers to these questions but part of the dilemma
is about controlling cost but we have a society have a sense of entitlement and with technology no boundaries of what the government spends on a life. The amount Medicare and Medicare pays for transplants, dialysis, premature infants and unnecessary surgeries is a high amount while I believe other are not having basic needs met. In the meantime, many of us are at the mercy of our insurance provider to decide what is covered or who we see.
I know this is a topic that is sensitive to so many of us but there is much to be addressed. I lose a lot of sleep wondering how my child is going to pay for college and live on his own and now add paying for diabetes to the mix is frightening what the future holds.
The good news, and I would seriously hope that no one would argue against it although I have my doubts, is that our children can now stay on our insurance until age 26. And while we're at it the inability to discriminate against people with pre-existing conditions and the removal of lifetime limits.
I just thought it was time to point out some of the pros.
Very good news, indeed.
Works for me.
Obamacare Helps Uninsured Diabetic Engineer Get Health Coverage
Uninsured in the Mississippi Delta
Denied - Trailer
The thread was started by "jparr" who, including the original post, has 1 post on CWD. The whole point of this thread was political IMO, to put down President Obama: http://fbindependent.com/texas-doctors-will-be-lean-and-mean-to-stay-in-business-p4970-89.htm
With regard to insulin cost going up, the poster appears to be from Texas, which may have different insurance company copay regulations (or lack thereof) than other states.
I noted JParr's single post status on page 1, but did not look further. Nice work, Darryl. I wonder how many times Mrs. Parr has been back to enjoy the pot she created and stirred but has not commented on.
Maybe you forgot to take your turmeric and cinnamon tablets. Maybe that is why your mental clarity is not where it should be.
It is hard for me to believe that someone who used to be a "shrink" takes so much pleasure in stirring up sh*it.
This post is poor in taste.
Just because another poster has a fairly extreme viewpoint (that is undoubtedly right-sided), has made posts that are semi-acceptable only due to the anonyminity of the internet, does not mean you can make personal attacks at a particular poster.
This person lives in the Houston area.
Harris county has the highest rate of uninsured in the nation--where Houston is. Although this individual has his practice in Fort Bend county, the uninsured per capita is still out of control.
The article is full of propaganda and is poorly written.
Well his words and the way he deals with topics don't seem like that of someone who is a retired "shrink".
And as for the turmeric and cinnamon I just have a bad taste in my mouth right now because came into contact (through a clinical placement) with a young man who is now dying because a naturopathic clinician told him to rub acetic acid (vinegar) on a malignant melanoma in order to treat it.
And I also take offense to him bad mouthing metformin and implying that turmeric and cinnamon is better. I don't even understand the logic behind turmeric consider in is a staple in the diet in India, yet the rates of type 2 diabetes are very high there.
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