I'm not looking to make any enemies here, but I think Wilf wasn't talking about specific individuals, but people in general. Yes, there are people who cannot exercise because of sickness or injury. Those people will obviously have a harder time keeping their weight in check. Likewise, I know of many people who can eat what they want and not exercise without gaining a pound (My wife is a twig and doesn't work at it at all). Yet, by the same token, I think we are talking about a minuscule number of people if we are talking about people who do all of the right things (eat well, exercise, and generally take care of their bodies) and are still significantly overweight. I have yet to meet someone who eats the recommended amount of calories (good calories, not junk food calories), exercises daily, and is obese. I have a friend who still has an extra 25 pounds that sits in the wrong spots despite generally doing the right things, but she isn't carrying around an extra 150. I tend to let an extra 25 pounds creep up on me from time to time in my adult life. It is completely my fault. When I stop exercising (or slow down with the exercising), and when I don't watch what I eat, the pounds pile on. While I have a trouble area (stomach) that doesn't seem to want to disappear no matter what I do, I still feel that the difference between looking "fit" and looking "fat" are up to me. My father was recently diagnosed with cancer. For years, he swore that he had no control over his weight --- he was just meant to be the weight he was at. He claimed he ate well. Yet when he HAD to lose weight for surgery, and when he HAD to follow a strict diet, he started losing a pound-per-day. Within a few weeks, he looked like a new man. When I looked at his changes, I realized that, what many of us THINK of as doing the right thing in regard to diet and exercise are simply just misconceptions -- or our minds fooling us into thinking we are powerless. Once again, some people get a pass (injured, sick) in my book, but I truly believe that the people who claim that their body was just meant to be heavy are usually just making excuses (I have definitely made those excuses in the past.). Yes, those people might have to work harder than others to lose that weight, but I truly think that in the vast majority of cases it can be done. While I don't think any amount of work will lead me to getting a job as a fitness model, I do feel that in many regards I control my own destiny when it comes to weight/fitness.