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Disney World Warning!!!

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Ivie's Mom, Jun 4, 2010.

  1. WendyTT

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    Our Disney experience

    I was very surprised when i read this thread because we just got back from Disney last Tuesday, june 2nd. Our first day at Disney was Friday, May 28 and we went to Guest RElations first thing that first morning at Hollywood Studios--we asked for a GAC, he nicely asked why we needed one, we explained, and he nicely got us one. So wondering what day you went and were refused one? We had no problems using it. We only used it for the Fast Pass lines and at first we were utilizing the Fast Passes, then when the fast passes were running out at 11am for the day, we decided not to get Fast Passes anymore since we already "had" one--we decided it would keep someone else from getting one. I hate to add to the "should Type 1s get a GAC" discussion--to me, though, to say that Type 1s are no different than others standing in those long lines is just wrong. For the one who posted that one thing to do is to check blood sugar before getting on each ride--sorry but are you kidding? And then say that Type 1s aren't different than others? To say why I felt we needed one would just be repeating what others on here have already said. I am really upset to hear Disney is changing their policy!
     
  2. fredntan2

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    If my daughter was a adult I think it would be much easier to manager her D.

    But since her insulin needs are changing constantly, throw in some hormones,
    some hot weather, 40 $ tickets for each family member, no carb counts on the foods in parks-am I forgetting anything? A disablility card makes the parks doable for us.
     
  3. MissEmi

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    I never said that T1s weren't any different, I'm just saying that it CAN be done without totally ruining a vacation. As far as checking bgs, I didn't do it on like Winnie-the-Pooh, or It's a Small World, but on rides where it would have been nearly impossible to check like Splash and Space Mountain? You betcha. I know that those of you who have used them are upset, I'm just saying that WDW CAN be done without one. It just takes more effort, and to me, WDW is worth it. As far as carb counts---I love my mini scale :D. Works great. Hormones--went at 16 and 17, last year it was right after being dx'd with Hashi's, this year it's awaiting diagnosis of Partial Congenital Adrenal Hyperplasia. I know that a lot of you feel like the GAC makes your trip as good as it is, and it probably does. My point is: Disney CAN be done without the GAC. Not done easily. Not done without any inconvenience. Just not be totally ruined. Although with littler kids, it's even tougher. But a lot of it is what your mind set is. If you think you can't do it, then you won't be able to.
     
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    do we have an official statement from them? My guess is the OP dealt with a lazy a-hole who didn't want to do his job and made something up. We've run into that from time to time.
     
  5. susan

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    My roommate when I worked at Disney still works there in Guest Relations..I emailed her and sent her the op complaint and I will let you know what she says about it..Maybe she can shed some light on this policy..
     
  6. Beach bum

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    I have to agree here. They need to be more specific about who gets the pass and how it is used.

    We have been lucky because when we have gone to Disney it has been cool enough that we could easily stand in the line and we were able to get fast pass. But, Abby struggles in the heat and standing in those lines, even in the shade, in FL summer temps would be a big problem for us.

    I know for a fact that when I worked at Disney there were people who rented wheelchairs just so they could bump to the front of the line, get priority seating at parades etc. But, how could you come out and say, you sure don't look like you need a wheelchair to me?
    It's a tricky situation, but definitely the system needs to be spelled out in black and white to the employees and those using the pass.
     
  7. bgallini

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    So, I haven't been to DW in many, many years or Disney land in awhile so I don't know all the rollercoasters, etc but can you carry that small backpack on all the rides? I have a bag like that and was hoping to be able to carry Alex's supplies in it when we go. But I don't want to have to put it in a cubby while we ride rides.
     
  8. hawkeyegirl

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    I would like to hear from someone who has actually talked to someone in charge at WDW. The OP's story is odd.

    As for using the GAC, I leave that decision up to the individuals requesting it. We've never been to Disney and I am undecided as to whether we would get one or not. I lean toward not, but can't rule it out. I try to be thoughtful about what accommodations I seek for Jack, and only accept the ones that I deem necessary. I'm very cognizant of the message that I'm sending to him (and to others) when I seek/accept accommodations, and I don't know that riding attractions at Disney falls into my own personal framework of "necessary accommodations." But that's just me, and if they are indeed available to kids with T1s, I don't think there is any shame in getting one.
     
  9. Melancholywings

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    Before T1D I carried my 'purse/bag/thingy' on all the rides. It's small with a long handle so I'd sling it over my head, so it hangs on one shoulder and a crossed the other hip. It fit between me and the side of the seat. I also carried my NikkonD40 in a holsterbag - but that would have to be stored in the nets. My husband took his big backpack and would put it on the floor and put his foot through the arms.
     
  10. selketine

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    I think Laura B. heard back from her inquires with Disney as she posted some information to the FFL 2010 list about it. I'm sure she'll post here. I actually need to see it again as I deleted that message from my email.

    I don't think Laura could possibly find out if one person was told something (such as the OP) - but she did look into whether it was a pervasive policy there (to deny based on type 1). I have visited Guest Services in the past (not during FFL) and sometimes had no trouble getting a guest card and other times as soon as I said my son has type 1 they guest services person immediately said "We don't give out GAC's for type 1 diabetes." I thought that was VERY odd as it is supposed to be based on need and I had not even started to say what the needs were. I do think some members of guest services have been trained not to give out a GAC if the person says "diabetes" - why this happened I don't know.
     
  11. liasmommy2000

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    We went in 2006 about six months after diagnosis. Lia was on MDI and still honeymooning. I carried a huge, ugly fanny pack full of her supplies. She also had a smaller one with back ups of some stuff in case she went on a ride or somewhere with someone else in our group (grandma or aunt). I was allowed to take this on every single ride. It was more like a bag than a fanny pack it was so big lol. We didn't ride a lot of the bigger thrill rides but we did go on Splash Mountain, Big Thunder Mountain and Space Mountain. I had no problems with taking the bag on any of these or any other ride. Nobody ever questioned it at all.

    As far as a GAC. I didn't request one and we didn't need one. We went in Aug and it was near 100 degrees every day. HOWEVER since she was six years old I still felt comfortable using a stroller and we rented one and used it. Not all the time, but enough. If we were just walking from one attraction to another nearby, say in the Magic Kingdom we didn't use it. But if we were crossing the park we definitely used it. We used it a lot more at Epcot as it's so big and the attractions are further apart. I think that helped a lot at avoiding the lows. We used FastPass whenever possible. Even though it was crazy busy I think our longest line was maybe an hour when it was later in the evening and no FastPasses were available for Big Thunder Mountain. But I believe most of that line was in the shade. I really can't remember any rides that we waited out in the full sun for. Maybe Dumbo and the Aladdin ride? But for Dumbo I knew it was a full sun line that can be insanely long so we ran for it as soon as the park opened to avoid that wait and only waited for one ride cycle. And even the Aladdin ride line wasn't too long from what I can recall.

    I also have absolutely no hesitation at testing and treating wherever we may be. In line, on the rides (not the wild ones of course) etc. So I can't see needing to get out of line except for severe lows/bathrooms. And that wasn't an issue for us. I tested a TON and at that time she rarely had highs so no bathroom issues.

    For us then it wasn't necessary. Now we can't use the stroller so I won't say never, but unlikely with lots of planning etc. I guess if she was high and needed to get out to use the bathroom I would try and speak to the line attendant to see if they could let us back in etc.
     
  12. bgallini

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    Thanks! I'm glad the bag shouldn't be a problem. Alex has been to Disney a few times since D so he's not concerned at all. But I want to have all the supplies he'll need...just in case. And since it will be June/July....It will be much hotter than when he's gone before.
     
  13. Mom22

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    Visiting Disney

    Been to Disney after my daughter was diagnosed in 2012 and we received a pass, no questions asked.
     
  14. Austins mom

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    I have to agree with the last poster... I dont want my child to feel like he should get any special treatment or that he is any different from anyone else... Im not sure Im understanding why they would get to go to the front of the line when everyone else has to wait their turn... As long as we are prepared with snacks for lows and water, why special treatment. We go to amusement parks all the time also and would have never even thought to ask about a pass. Honestly, i was very surprised when I just read this thread....:confused:
     
  15. kiwikid

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    I was abit disappointed on FB to see Gary Scheiner boasting (for want of a better word) about getting a free front of the line pass in some amusement park... Its seemed very off to me..
     
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    Even though this is a very old thread, I thought I'd add my two cents!

    I thought it was ridiculous, too, until I entered into a discussion of the issue with other people who I consider to be reasonable and level-headed. I have changed my view a bit since then. It seems that some of our kids simply cannot handle the heat or really need extra access to restrooms. They do not deserve to go to the front of the line (but I do not believe that is what the pass is all about, is it?), but it seems that the ability to leave the line to deal with issues without losing their spots is important.

    My son, on the other hand, does not have trouble with heat, nor does he need or want to drink or pee more than other kids. For us, I think it would be wrong to accept the pass. At the same time, I am more than willing to support parents who believe that it is necessary for their kids to have this accommodation in order to get the same enjoyment out of an amusement park that other kids get.

    I might not be so generous-minded with those who just do it because they can, though, or because it is a "perk" of diabetes, but that is just me!
     
  17. Beach bum

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    This was a thought provoking blog from a FFL attendee...

    http://www.diabetesmine.com/2013/07/playing-the-diabetes-card-not-always-needed.html



    We've gotten a card in the past, but luckily have never had to use it. Fast Pass and planning always seemed to work in our favor. I never wanted to use the card so that we could get to the front. I wanted a shaded place to wait, or if in the event we had to leave just hop back in where we had left off (ie. if we had a 30 min wait, and we came back and the line was still long, we were willing to finish).

    I recently read that there is a trend with people hiring disabled people to come on vacation with them so that they could get to the front of the line. It was in order to maximize their time. Very, very sad. http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/0...y-world-lines-hire-a-disabled-escort-1040day/
     
  18. mamattorney

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    We went to Disney in June. I had heard about the Guest Accomodation Pass (and the scandal with the disabled tour guides). This was our first vacation post diagnosis, and the first time we were out in heat like that (my daughter was diagnosed in March in the midwest). I was nervous on many levels -- eating out every meal, rides, heat, etc -- but we decided to take it one day at a time.

    We ended up never even asking for the pass because my daughter didn't seem to react any differently than the rest of us (we were all really hot and sweaty) and didn't require any additional accommodations.

    I have to say, I'm glad we didn't ask for one because I would have felt really guilty. The rest of the line truly grumbled when they saw the "go to the front of the line people". It just doesn't seem fair. I understand that people have special needs and that they might not be able to stand for an hour or maneuver through the serpentine lines with their scooters or wheelchairs, but why does that mean that they don't have to wait the same amount of time as everyone else? Even if the affected person gets to wait outside of the line somewhere, why can't the rest of the party wait in line like everyone else?

    I suppose it's just Disney's way of saying: we understand you have to live with this situation 24/7/365 and we want to give you a treat for this one day/one week at our Parks. But I don't know; it left me with a bad taste in my mouth to see a family of 6 getting to skip the lines every time because of someone in a scooter.
     
  19. KatieSue

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    We go to Disneyland a lot, we've had passes for years and it never occurred to us that it was even a thing when she was diagnosed. When we went to Disney World a couple of years ago we just took rests because of the heat etc.

    They are starting to do one of the things mamattorney suggested which is make it more of a fast pass. For Radiator Springs you go with your wheelchair or GAC to a special station and they give you a pass with a return time which usually is approximately how long the regular line is at the time. You come back at that time and get into the GAC line which is shorter.

    They also let you keep your group together. Otherwise you'd have 4 people in line and one person off by themselves the whole time which doesn't seem very fun. Also a lot of the GAC lines, Pirates is one, can end up being a longer wait than the regular lines because they get so backed up. One of the reasons some get long is because they can only have a few people with mobility issues in the ride at a time, in case the ride goes down and they have to walk people out. So the waits can get longer at peak times.
     
  20. mamattorney

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    I just wanted to add that we took advantage of (and felt kind of guilty about) using the child swap tickets. Our littlest child is not tall enough to ride some of the rides so they will give you a "child swap" pass which meant for our family: one parent and the two tall kids get in line (either fast pass or regular) and the other parent gets a "child swap" pass and waits with the short kid until the rest of the family rides the ride. Then, the parent who rode first waits with the short child while the other parent gets to use the child swap pass and goes through the fast pass line and gets to ride the ride.

    That wouldn't make me feel guilty in and of itself, but the kicker is that the child swap pass is good for three people, so my tall kids got to ride the ride twice. Once by waiting in line and then again with the child swap. I was going to have the tall kids wait with dad and just go on the ride as a single rider, but the attendants were all very much - "take kids on again -that's the great part of child swap" so we did. The tall kids got to ride Soarin' and Star Tours twice in a row, which was great for them.

    Anyway, I wrote all that to say that I think they could do something like that for GAC people so that you wouldn't have them waiting by themselves, but I think it's just too complicated for Disney - going up the exit line as an entire party is just easier; even though it's frustrating for everyone else in line.
     

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