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Basal: When is your basal highest? Difference of high/low?

Discussion in 'Parents of Children with Type 1' started by rutgers1, Nov 28, 2011.

  1. rutgers1

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    I am curious as to when your child's basal is running highest, and when it is running lowest. I am also curious to hear what the difference is between those times.

    Matt is highest during the pre-dawn hours through morning. He goes down after lunch to alost 1/3 that level, It is like he could practically go untethered late afternoon into the early evening, but once he goes to sleep he needs a lot of basal.
     
  2. Butterfly Betty

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    Sophie's highest are between 4 a.m. and 8 a.m, and again between 7 p.m and Midnight, both times are at 0.550. Between Noon and 7 p.m she runs at 0.450.
     
  3. swellman

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    12:00 AM - 4:00 AM 0.45 Units/Hour
    4:00 AM - 5:00 AM 0.35 Units/Hour
    5:00 AM - 10:00 AM 0.55 Units/Hour
    10:00 AM - 12:00 AM 0.35 Units/Hour

    11 year old 80 pound boy gets up at 6:15 AM and goes to bet at 9:00 PM
     
  4. manda81

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    Our highest is 9pm-2am, he goes to sleep at 8pm, and his pituitary gland must be going nuts, because his needs are almost triple during that time period, and have been for a year.

    Our lowest is 10am-11am, which is .05u/hr M-F, which wards off the PE low at 12:55pm.
     
  5. rutgers1

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    That is pretty interesting that you were able to figure out a dip in insulin needs for a single hour.

    That is pretty neat the the needs are pretty static for 14 hours.
     
  6. L101418

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    R:
    12:00a .225
    7:00a .450

    P:
    12:00a .425
    8:00a .550
    1:00p .500
    10:00p .400
     
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  7. MamaLibby

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    My daughter (10) has the highest basal between 3 am and 7 am. Her lowest is early evening (2pm-5pm)
     
  8. 3kidlets

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    Hana's highest basal rate is from 5 a.m. to 8 a.m. I think she is at .75/hr. After that she drops down to .40 until about 3 p.m. when she drops down to her lowest of .35 for the rest of the day.
     
  9. Ali

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    Adult. But I go from .35 or .45 from midnight to two am to .8 to.9 five am to nine am. I stay low all night with a gradual increase then a big bump at five thirty am from .60 to .95.(That is when I usually get up). I then go back down around nine to .6 to .7 for the rest of the day till the evening bump. I actually adjust quite bit with my set amounts and food/temp basal changes. In general. I am super low,as low as .3 from midnight to about two am, I jump big time after I get up and start moving. If I sleep in I will go low, if I set a lower basal for those hours and do not sleep in I go high. Stable from eight am to five pm at about .65 units per hour. But it adjusts a bit by .05 units per hour or by my just snacking a bit more. I usually wear a CGMS which makes it a bit easier to adjust everything on the fly without adjusting things on my pump. Ali
     
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    7am is almost double what it is at 5pm. It goes up up up from 2am-7am, but the highest is at 7a.

    1.5 as compared to .85, roughly.
     
  11. Charlotte'sMom

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    Charlotte's highest are at 6am for a few hours and then in the evenings about 5pm for a few hours. And she goes from her almost highest, to the very lowest at 11:00pm. It seems like once she's in range for the night, she needs very little basal after that.
     
  12. swellman

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    I wouldn't read too much into that as I can't defend it. I can't remember why I did it although I'm sure I had a good reason. Odds are that there was a larger range at the lowest setting and I tweaked it up over time and never felt the need to change that one point.

    Weekends are a good test of basals, at least sleeping basals, since he usually sleeps to 10 and sometimes to 11 and we see some pretty flat lines on the Dexcom.

    I don't change a lot of basals unless I have like a month of bad numbers overnight or if we have a good three days of consistent meals, etc. and see we're off.
     
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    Highest is 2100-0400. Lowest is 1000-1200, due primarily to a rough recess/lunch/PE schedule at school. Our rates don't seem to vary much - .7 is the highest and .625...except for one day every other week when the schedule is recess/lunch/PE/PE and I have 2 hours of .45 built in to cover the double PE class.
     
  14. Beach bum

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    We just made some changes. We have increased the basals, but for longer periods of time, so down to 3 programs.

    5pm-7am .425
    7am-3pm .350
    3pm-5pm .300

    Puberty. That's all I'm saying:eek:
     
  15. Beach bum

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    It's interesting here because you can see the difference between a pre-pubescent teen and one who's pretty much already gone through puberty.
    Thanks for sharing.
     
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    jesse, 19 , 6'4 and 200 lbs..
    basals are 1.35 24/7
    except from 4pm til 9 pm... 1.5
    he consumes most of his food at those hrs...
    changing his bolus didnt help with post prandial highs...
    having a higher basal did..
     
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    Ashleigh's highest basal is from 8am-10am. It's .875 at that time. then from 10am-noon it drops to .65 which is her lowest basal rate. starting at noon it gradually starts going up again.
     
  18. rutgers1

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    The most interesting thing I am getting from this is that people are all over the place with their basals. There are a bunch with higher basal rates in the early morning, but other than that there seems to be few similarities between people. I'd love to see these overlayed on a line graph to see where similarities exist.
     
  19. lil'Man'sMom

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    My active 10 year old boy:

    12am (.75)
    2am (.55)
    4am (.45)
    6am (.55)
    11am (.65)


    He seems to need a large rate between 12-2am then slowly drops until 6am (helps with the morning low), raising back up at 6am (helps with the breakfast spike). Still tweaking the 11am-12am...
     
  20. kiwikid

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    Rachel has just turned 10 and her highest basals are .85 between 5.30am and 10am and then .95 between 6pm and 10pm - I think we have way more puberty than you :rolleyes:

    Her lowest basal is .40 between 11am and 3.30 pm and she is still often lowish after school..
     

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