Anyone have lower basal needs from 3-7am than 12-3am?

Every time we get a new regimen for our son, there is a higher basal rate in the early morning hours. However, I am finding that he generally runs high from midnight to 3 and progressively falls from 3 to wakeup at 7. If allowed to sleep, he will also fall from 7 to 9.

To me, it seems like switching the basal rates between those two times (the morning is currently slightly higher than the night) would make more sense. I am just wondering if our endo is maintaining the current rate (with more basal given early morning) because the general perception is that kids need more insulin in the morning.

Anyone else need LESS insulin early morning than late at night?

 

On the weekends I will set my 15 year old on a temp rate from when I get up - say 6-7:00 because oddly, she seems to need only about 50% basal then till she gets up - maybe 11:00 or even noon, on non-sport mornings.

My feeling is that every kid is different and no textbook covers them all. Dose as the numbers dictate and don't worry about what they, are "supposed" to do.

As Badshoe says, "YDMV"

 

It totally makes sense to me. As we are on MDI I give him regular insulin to cover the hours 12-3

 

DS often drops after 3am. His basal is highest 9pm-12am. 3am is quite a bit lower.

 

We're now going straight through from 6pm until 11am at 1.1 units per hour *eek*... I remember when we had basal alternating of .05 and .00 ... You have to do what works for you.. :cwds:

 

Highest basal here is 8pm-midnight. Midnight-4am is lower.

 

DDs lowest basal rate is from 3am to 5am and then it goes up considerably (almost double) at 5am and even higher about an hour before breakfast.

 

Isaac's basal rates drop at midnight (half of previous) and then again at 2am (half again) and they don't go back up until 7am.

 

Upon waking my insulin needs increase. If I sleep in I keep dropping. So I have figured that my basal rates tend to be based on the fact that I get up about the same time most days and by in general starting to increase my basal rates in preparation of getting up I can control those morning highs better, but when I sleep in that increase causes a low. So I adjust for weekends with my basals. Ali

 

yes basal and ISF, especially after 4am till 6:30.