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    Might want to have a look at the DeVos Confirmation hearing to get a sense of her disinterest in maintaining the 504 protections upon which our kids in public schools rely.
    Sarah
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    Yep, very disappointed about this candidate. I sincerely hope she is not confirmed. Then again, thetrump is the last person on earth I wanted as president. All my hoping he wouldn't be elected didn't make that wish come true...
    Mother of two wonderful daughters:
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    Yeah, I'm quite appalled by her hearings. I just.... No... Just no.
    Lisa, Mom to:
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    Sophia born 10-8-2002. Diagnosed T1 on December 5th, 2010.
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    The news summaries kind of buried her answer on IDEA among the many other, um, surprising positions that she took.

    For those CWDers looking for details on her disability rights statements, here's one of the more in-depth write-ups that I've seen, with links to video clips:

    https://psmag.com/betsy-devos-danger...75e#.842drgjwc
    Snowflake
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    DD TR, age 6. Dx-ed with T1 04/04/2012. Omnipod & Dexcom user. Dx-ed with celiac 12/23/2013.
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    DS2, age 1.

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    While I find the 504 protections nice I have never had to rely on them as I have always had a positive relationship with my kid's schools. Certainly many people do get more benefit from the laws when schools fail.

    However, it seems like a bit of hysteria to think that even if DeVoss completely dismantled the federal department of education (highly unlikely) that our kids would lose protections. Before the law started in 1975 it was left up to states and many kids received very bad services. Then a bunch of states got sued and lost. After that the federal government made the federal laws codifying the protections that the court determined they deserved. If the department of education ceased to exist (again unlikely) the laws would still be on the books. But if the laws also ceased to exist ( even more unlikely) then the court cases that the states lost would still exist. Even if those court cases had never happened we are far more enlightened than we were back in 1975 and I doubt many states at all would fail to enact state legislation to protect students with disabilities.

    Meanwhile we throw more and more money at education and there is little correlation to the amount we spend and improvements. Something needs to change and I am all for that change being that I get more control over local situations and the federal government gets out. As parents we need to have more power and the increased ability to change schools and even to change states if it comes to that is a power I would like to see more of. Are you not in favor of parents and local schools having more power?
    Alan father of daughter with T1D born 2/2005
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakeman View Post
    While I find the 504 protections nice I have never had to rely on them as I have always had a positive relationship with my kid's schools. Certainly many people do get more benefit from the laws when schools fail.

    However, it seems like a bit of hysteria to think that even if DeVoss completely dismantled the federal department of education (highly unlikely) that our kids would lose protections. Before the law started in 1975 it was left up to states and many kids received very bad services. Then a bunch of states got sued and lost. After that the federal government made the federal laws codifying the protections that the court determined they deserved. If the department of education ceased to exist (again unlikely) the laws would still be on the books. But if the laws also ceased to exist ( even more unlikely) then the court cases that the states lost would still exist. Even if those court cases had never happened we are far more enlightened than we were back in 1975 and I doubt many states at all would fail to enact state legislation to protect students with disabilities.

    Meanwhile we throw more and more money at education and there is little correlation to the amount we spend and improvements. Something needs to change and I am all for that change being that I get more control over local situations and the federal government gets out. As parents we need to have more power and the increased ability to change schools and even to change states if it comes to that is a power I would like to see more of. Are you not in favor of parents and local schools having more power?

    I'm glad that you've had good experiences with your school's personnel. But there are many, many T1 families who have not had the same experience. For examples, see here:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/27/h...care.html?_r=0

    In my experience as both a T1 parent and as an education administrator, nothing gets a school bureaucracy's attention as quickly or easily as a complaint to the Dept of Education OCR. If the Department of Education ceased to exist, that administrative process would vanish. Going to court simply isn't a realistic option for many families, and nor is it nearly as economical or efficient a way to resolve those questions as seeking federal interpretation of federal law. I just don't share your faith that all schools nationwide would do the right thing on disability accommodations without a federal mandate (look no further than those private schools that aren't subject to ADA/504!)
    Snowflake
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    DD TR, age 6. Dx-ed with T1 04/04/2012. Omnipod & Dexcom user. Dx-ed with celiac 12/23/2013.
    DS1, age 4
    DS2, age 1.

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    A quick post to express my agreement with what Snowflake has posted above
    Mother of two wonderful daughters:
    *T age 14 - dx'd 01/24/2014 at age 11.5
    MDI: Humalog & Lantus 01/24/2014 - 06/04/2014
    Dexcom: G4 05/02/2014; G4 with Share 03/11/2015; G5 10/07/2015
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakeman View Post
    Are you not in favor of parents and local schools having more power?
    At the PTA level, yes; policy level, no. Some counties & school districts get it really right while others get it really wrong. The disparity is not acceptable. Fed govt has done a poor job with oversight, but that shouldn't mean we throw in the towel. IMO. It's one of the few areas I'm in favor of big government. Also agree with Snowflake on 504.
    Last edited by DavidN; 02-14-2017 at 10:12 AM.
    Son - Dx July/12 as 9 yr old. OmniPod Dec/12. Dexcom G4 Feb/13.

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