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    Default FYI Ping limitations for Honeymooners, or itty bitty litttle ones.

    You can only go to an:
    I:C of 1:160
    ISF of 1:600 ( if my kiddo was 350 with a target of 150 that would be .30, which is exactly what I have corrected with and had an am # of 98, but was that my insulin or her own?)))
    Target of 60-250: +/- 50 ( which is totally a flaw, you should not be able to target to a BG of 10!!!!)

    Basal of 0.025 (24hr total of .60 units, but you can set a 0.0 basal on the Ping)

    I know those numbers are just crazy, But with my dd that we caught super early and may start to bolus corrections and carbs, I found it interesting to see what the highest I could go was. Especially since we have two one the same pump! Although we do have each kiddos gear decked out with either Leopard or Gummy bear duck tape!!!
    McKenna DX 1/3/06 @ 13 months^11 YRS
    Pumping @ 18 months & Dexcoming @ 4.5 yrs
    PINGing - Tethered with Lantus
    Madison DX 3/17/14 @ 5yrs thru Trial Net^7YRS
    Started with Dexcom and now Pinging

    impaired glucose at 2hr mark
    8/12 BG 166^4/13 BG 205^6/13 BG 143^3/14 BG 216
    faith trust and pixie dust

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    Thank you! This is very helpful information. Any idea how these limitations compare to other pumps? We just went to endo today and finally got approval for a pump, which we REALLY need for micro-dosing.
    Elizabeth

    Mama to 4, wife to Jacob, my teammate in D care
    Andrew- 6 (tested negative for antibodies through TrialNet 3.14)
    John Fletcher- 4
    ---diagnosed with T1D 11.13
    ---wearing Dexcom G4 since 3.14
    ---pumping with Novolog since 9.14 (Ping originally, OmniPod currently)
    ---monitoring with Nightscout since 8.14
    Julia- 3 (tested negative for antibodies through TrialNet 8.14)
    Henry- 8 months

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    Quote Originally Posted by bamaboyd82 View Post
    Thank you! This is very helpful information. Any idea how these limitations compare to other pumps? We just went to endo today and finally got approval for a pump, which we REALLY need for micro-dosing.
    Minimed 530G

    Insulin: Carb Ratio- 1:200 gm
    Sensitivity: ISF of 400
    Target: 60-250 mg/dl
    Basal: 0.025 units. Can have 0 basal periods.
    Type 1 adult, pumper
    Animas Vibe with Humalog
    Dexcom G5

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    Quote Originally Posted by funnygrl View Post
    Minimed 530G

    Insulin: Carb Ratio- 1:200 gm
    Sensitivity: ISF of 400
    Target: 60-250 mg/dl
    Basal: 0.025 units. Can have 0 basal periods.
    Wow! Big differences. Considering my son's nighttime ISF is about 400 right now, that may be a point against the Minimed. Thank you for posting!
    Elizabeth

    Mama to 4, wife to Jacob, my teammate in D care
    Andrew- 6 (tested negative for antibodies through TrialNet 3.14)
    John Fletcher- 4
    ---diagnosed with T1D 11.13
    ---wearing Dexcom G4 since 3.14
    ---pumping with Novolog since 9.14 (Ping originally, OmniPod currently)
    ---monitoring with Nightscout since 8.14
    Julia- 3 (tested negative for antibodies through TrialNet 8.14)
    Henry- 8 months

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    Quote Originally Posted by bamaboyd82 View Post
    Thank you! This is very helpful information. Any idea how these limitations compare to other pumps? We just went to endo today and finally got approval for a pump, which we REALLY need for micro-dosing.
    t:slim
    Basal (range: 0 and .1 - 15 units an hour) - which I think means and average of .033/hour over the course of 24 hours if you alternated .1 and 0 over all 16 allowed segments in a profile. But I'm not 100% sure.
    Correction Factor/ISF (range: 1:1 to 1:600)
    Carb Ratio (range: 1:1 - 1:300)
    Target BG (range: 70-250)
    Last edited by mamattorney; 06-05-2014 at 03:00 PM.
    DD diagnosed March, 2013 at age 10, now 14 years old
    T:slim (Humalog until 12/31/14, now Novolog) as of August, 2013
    Dexcom G5

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    The parents on this forum are the most amazing resource I've ever come across! Thank you! Anybody willing to be so kind as to pop in with the Omnipod numbers?
    Elizabeth

    Mama to 4, wife to Jacob, my teammate in D care
    Andrew- 6 (tested negative for antibodies through TrialNet 3.14)
    John Fletcher- 4
    ---diagnosed with T1D 11.13
    ---wearing Dexcom G4 since 3.14
    ---pumping with Novolog since 9.14 (Ping originally, OmniPod currently)
    ---monitoring with Nightscout since 8.14
    Julia- 3 (tested negative for antibodies through TrialNet 8.14)
    Henry- 8 months

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    Omni Pod
    minimum basal 0.05 can not set for Zero basal.(24hr 1.2 units)

    max basal 30units/hr

    Target 70-200

    I:C minimum 1:150 Maximum 1:1

    ISF minimum 1:400 Maximum 1:1

    Duration minimum 2hrs max 6hrs
    McKenna DX 1/3/06 @ 13 months^11 YRS
    Pumping @ 18 months & Dexcoming @ 4.5 yrs
    PINGing - Tethered with Lantus
    Madison DX 3/17/14 @ 5yrs thru Trial Net^7YRS
    Started with Dexcom and now Pinging

    impaired glucose at 2hr mark
    8/12 BG 166^4/13 BG 205^6/13 BG 143^3/14 BG 216
    faith trust and pixie dust

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    Thank you! This is all so informative!

    At least at the moment, we would really need to be able to set the basal to zero from about 2-7AM, so I'm bummed to see you can't do that with the OmniPod. Maybe we could get something else initially, and as John Fletcher's needs change, do the Cut the Cord program.

    The T:Slim actually sounds like it might fit his current needs best, but I have this vague recollection of someone saying it couldn't be used by small children. Is that right?
    Elizabeth

    Mama to 4, wife to Jacob, my teammate in D care
    Andrew- 6 (tested negative for antibodies through TrialNet 3.14)
    John Fletcher- 4
    ---diagnosed with T1D 11.13
    ---wearing Dexcom G4 since 3.14
    ---pumping with Novolog since 9.14 (Ping originally, OmniPod currently)
    ---monitoring with Nightscout since 8.14
    Julia- 3 (tested negative for antibodies through TrialNet 8.14)
    Henry- 8 months

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    It's not that it can't be used by small children, it's that it's only FDA approved for kids 12+. Doctors can prescribe it off label though - that's how my (then) 10 year old got one.
    DD diagnosed March, 2013 at age 10, now 14 years old
    T:slim (Humalog until 12/31/14, now Novolog) as of August, 2013
    Dexcom G5

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    Quote Originally Posted by bamaboyd82 View Post
    Thank you! This is all so informative!

    At least at the moment, we would really need to be able to set the basal to zero from about 2-7AM, so I'm bummed to see you can't do that with the OmniPod. Maybe we could get something else initially, and as John Fletcher's needs change, do the Cut the Cord program.

    The T:Slim actually sounds like it might fit his current needs best, but I have this vague recollection of someone saying it couldn't be used by small children. Is that right?
    I may be wrong, but I believe that the issue with the t:slim is that there is no reverse correction.
    Mother of two wonderful daughters:
    *T age 14 - dx'd 01/24/2014 at age 11.5
    MDI: Humalog & Lantus 01/24/2014 - 06/04/2014
    Dexcom: G4 05/02/2014; G4 with Share 03/11/2015; G5 10/07/2015
    OmniPod with Humalog 06/05/2014; Apidra 09/12/2014
    *C age 27 - reactive airway disease; married 08/30/2014

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