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Discussion in 'Continuous Glucose Sensing' started by ecs1516, May 1, 2009.

  1. iluvmhp

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    I sure do wish there was an alarm if you get ??? for a certain amount of time. I am afraid of missing a low because it is in ???.
     
  2. Melissata

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    That would be a deal breaker for me. At least with Navigator you know when you have those 10 hours that you are not going to get readings. I would not sleep so well thinking that she may be going for hours without readings. Since she has been on the CGM we have discovered that she must have been sleeping through a lot of lows. Probably has something to do with her starting to become hypo unaware.
     
  3. selketine

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    This is funny cause both my boys have the same shirt - LOL!

    Thanks for the tape pic - I was curious. So far putting the IV3000 under the Nav tape is working for keeping William rash free but we still have a couple of days to go...

    Thanks again for all the updates - very interesting. I posted to u on the FFL board to - check that.
     
  4. ecs1516

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    Well, I have found that the ??? seems to trigger a false low and you do get a alarm for that. I have yet to miss a ??? because it either alarmed for signal or false low. Just as the Navigator alarms with a false low when you lay on it.

    I do believe this is a problem that Dexcom knows about and I 'hope' they add a alarm for that condition.
     
  5. iluvmhp

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    Interesting, we havent had a false low from the ???. We also have only had about 10 minutes of ??? on this sensor. It was when her blood sugar was spiking extreemly fast. I believe it was trying to catch up.

    It does give an alarm if it is out of range, so if they could just program it think the ??? are out of range that would be great!
     
  6. ecs1516

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    My younger son's ??? was short and was from a spike and it was the first 12 hours of sensor. I don't ding that because you don't even get reading for the first 10 hours in Navigator.


    On my older son, it has a out of range alarm but I usually have gotten a low alarm then it goes to ???. But , it had already alarmed and I am aware of that.
    I will meet with the Dexcom trainer this Friday and will ask more about this. She said they are downloading the data and sending it to their engineering to analyze the data to see what happened.

    On another note, with Navigator batteries that just up and die, I had one system just stop working in the middle of the night. That too would leave you exposed to lows and there is no chance it will start working again.:rolleyes:
    At least with the ??? , the system always tries to work it self out.
     
  7. ecs1516

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    And we will be wearing those shirts at FFL.:p
     
  8. ecs1516

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    I looked in my training notes. The alarms go off every 5 minutes until you snooze them.
     
  9. Mouchakkaa

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    I have to apologize. You can not set a 15 snooze on the low. It was a 20 min snooze on a fall. Sorry if I confused anyone, I really thought we had our low set to 15 min.
     
  10. ecs1516

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    Yes, all I see is a 30 min, 1 hour, 2 hour, 3 hour, 4 hour or 5 hour
     
  11. ecs1516

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    More numbers from Ethan
    5/5
    2:39p
    Dexcom (buzzed first with high) 201 up angle
    Navigator 202 up angle
    Is that close or what?

    2:55p
    Navigator sensor error:confused:

    3:36p
    Dexcom 165 straight
    Navigator 159 straight

    4:38p
    Dexcom 136 straight
    Navigator 136 straight
    :eek::D

    5:52p
    Dexcom 64 straight
    Navigator 91
    Navigator meter 82
    Hmmmm

    6:15p
    Dexcom 72
    Navigator 87 up angle

    7:52pm
    Dexcom 192
    Navigator 179
    Navigator Meter 166
    calibrated Dexcom here to 166

    8:05p
    Navigator alarmed for calibration here
    Navigator 180
    Navigator meter 178

    8:30p
    Dexcom 219 up angle
    Navigator 202

    9:30p
    Dexcom 124 down angle
    Navigator 133 straight
    Navigator meter 112

    10:20p
    Dexcom 109 straight
    Navigator 119 straight

    11:38p
    Dexcom 211 double up arrow
    Navigator 159
    Navigator meter 170
    Hmmm

    11:40p
    I went aheaad and calibrated Dexcom here
    Dexcom now 215 changed to 185 after cal
    Navigator 160
    Navigator meter173

    2:20am
    Dexcom 123 straight
    Navigator 126 straight
    :D

    2:56am
    Dexcom Low alarm for 88( Ihave low alarm set to 90)
    Navigator 101
    Navigator meter 95

    Dex won this round for catching the low first

    6:07a
    Dexcom 72
    Navigator 80
    Navigator meter 73

    6:37a
    Dexcom 123 double up arrow
    Navigator 111

    6:39am
    Dexcom 123 double up
    Navigator 131 up arrow
    I find it odd that even with Navigator giving readouts more often at ever 1 minute that sometimes Dexcom still picks the movement first??

    8:25a
    Dexcom 182 straight
    Navigator 184 straight
    Navigator meter 175

    8:45a
    Dexcom 200 up angle
    Navigator 206 up angle
    Dexcom alarmed first with the HI 200. Both hi are set to 200 on both systems

    11:06a
    Dexcom 172 straight
    Navigator 182 straight

    11:46a
    Dexcom 146 down angle
    Navigator 161 straight
    Navigator meter 141
    Calibrated Dexcom here to 141

    12:20p
    Dexcom 121
    Navigator 122
    Navigator meter 137

    3:13p
    Dexcom 131
    Navigator 126

    I must say I have been very pleased with Ethan's results. Both CGMs are working fine. I do find it strange that Dexcom alarmed or showed movement first on some of the readings even with the 5 min readout. But, the other day when he was a little low it seemed it took longer for the Dexcom to go back up compared to the Navigator. I had heard the the Navigator excels in low numbers.
    But, the Dexcom did pick that low up, just didn't recover as fast from it.
     
  12. iluvmhp

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    So so interesting Carol. Thanks!
     
  13. Diana

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    Carol,

    It really is amazing how similar those results are. At least when you are deciding between the Dex and Nav for Ethan, you don't have to worry about accuracy. I think you are fine either way! Hopefully, you will get similar results with Eric's next sensor.

    Diana
     
  14. ecs1516

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    Eric numbers
    5/5
    2:39p
    Dexcom 136 up angle
    Navigator 135 (immed. changed while looking to 136 up angle)



    3:10p
    Dexcom 143 straight
    Navigator 141 straight

    4:20p
    Dexcom 207
    Navigator 180
    Navigator meter 190

    6:00pm
    Dexcom 204
    Navigator 181
    Navigator meter 186

    8:00pm
    Dexcom 162 straight
    Navigator 138
    Navigator meter 140
    Calibrated Dexcom to 140

    8:08p
    Here is how it changed quick
    Dexcom 143 straight
    Navigator 143
    Navigator meter 142
    Calibrated Navigator

    9:35p
    Dexcom 193 straight angle
    Navigator 182
    Navigator meter 190

    10:21p
    Dexcom 154 straight
    Navigator 154

    11:44p
    Dexcom 171 straight
    Navigator 141 straight

    2:20am
    Dexcom 148
    Navigator 77 down angle alarm LOW (was laying on Navigator)
    Navigator meter 130

    A few ??? for a short time at night. But, alarmed because of signal

    8:16a
    Dexcom 138
    Navigator 107
    Navigator meter 124
    calibrated Dex to 124(immed changed to 131)

    8:54a
    Dexcom 180 up angle
    Navigator 130

    9:17a
    Dexcom 207 up arrow
    Navigator 167 straight

    10:34am
    Dexcom 240 down angle
    Navigator 196

    11:03am
    Dexcom 207 down angle
    Navigator 167
    Navigator meter 164

    12:22
    Dexcom 114 down angle
    Navigator 113
    Navigator 89

    2:16p
    Dexcom 243 straight
    Navigator 174
    Navigator 198
     
  15. ecs1516

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    Yes, I think with any system some sensor placement or the sensor could be off. I hope for better results for Eric next week.
     
  16. ecs1516

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    Didn't know if everyone saw my post a few pages back of the tape of both sensors on day three. I will also post pictures tomorrow of the tape.
     
  17. ecs1516

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    I have noticed that my son Ethan's Dexcom picks up further than 5 feet. He is sick today and the receiver has been in the center of the room on a table while he is on the couch. Eric's seems to have a shorter range. I had the same problem with Navigator. Ethan's always picked up further than Eric's Navigator! Crazy.:rolleyes:

    I must say that some of the highs numbers from last night was because he was getting sick. They both woke up with terrible colds.


    5/6
    3:59p
    Dexcom 142 straight
    Navigator 152 straight

    7:34p
    Dexcom 212 straight
    Navigator 213 straight
    Navigator meter 230
    Started sneezing and stuffy

    9:13p
    Dexcom 221 straight
    Navigator 213 straight
    Navigator meter 203
    sore throat

    11:29p
    Dexcom 148 straight
    Navigator 152 straight
    Navigator meter 149 :D
    Cal on Dexcom with 149

    8:02am
    Dexcom 156 straight
    Navigator 154 arrow

    8:24a
    Dexcom 152 straight
    Navigator 156 straight
    Navigator meter 162
    cal on Dexcom


    Eric's numbers
    We beleive Eric Dexcom sensor may have not been placed well (on side of arm :rolleyes:)
    Although the beginning of the week he had one night with some ??? and another night with many ???, that has gone away. He gets readings all night now. Also, even with restarting the Navigator, it is still have trouble and topping out at 200 during the night(I didn't write those down) and this morning.

    Eric
    5/6
    4:08p
    Dexcom 273
    Navigator 187 straight
    Navigator meter 270

    6:20p
    Dexcom 250 straight down
    Navigator 195 straight down
    Navigator meter 273
    Of course Dexcom alerted high first. Navigator just seems to top out at 200 sometimes, but not always, most of the time.:confused:

    7:36p
    Dexcom 207
    Navigator 154
    Navigator 197

    9:12p
    Dexcom 258
    Navigator 197
    Navigator meter 253

    11:34p
    Dexcom 177 straight
    Navigator 123 straight
    Navigator meter 147 straight
    cal to Dexcom woth 147

    5/7
    7:56a
    Dexcom 220 straight
    Navigator 153 straight
    navigator meter 209

    Very sick with sneezing, stuffy cold
    No prebolus becaues of sick

    9:31
    Dexcom 315 double arrow up :eek:
    Navigator 201
    Navigator meter 283
    pump didn't want to give correction because of IOB. Gave a little plus temp rate of 110%
     
  18. iluvmhp

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    Oh Carol, I am sorry the boys are sick. Hannah was fighting a virus early this week. He BS were in the 300's WITH a 40% increase in basal. Crazy!!! I hope they feel better soon.
     
  19. ecs1516

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    I love being able to monitor them with both the CGM while they are sick, well, should I say both CGMs:rolleyes:

    Oh, and we have to drive to the endo office tomorrow to take off the Dexcom and download sensors! Sick and all we are going.
     
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    Sorry they are sick :(
     

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