Maybe or maybe not. I don't know if we can conclude one way or the other on that. For example, one of the main points of those who conclude that vaccines have nothing to do with autism is that the reason that the numbers of cases have so dramatically increased over the years is the "better diagnosing" idea. In other words, it isn't vaccines that are causing such an increase in autism but it's the increase in how doctors are diagnosing the children in greater numbers, etc... Personally, I can see the idea of better diagnosing in very high functioning children, but not for the full blown cases of autism... But I digress.... So, it would almost appear that with your comment above you *may* be trying to have it both ways. The increase in numbers of children has to do with better diagnosing (not vaccines) but when it comes to the numbers of cases not going down after a decrease in rates of mmr, that can't have anything to do with an increase in better diagnosing? You see what I mean? I may be reading you wrong, so feel free to elaborate. I'm reading Wakefield's book now "Callous Disregard" and I have to say there's a lot of eye-opening commentary in there... I am happy that he was able to give his side of the story... Unfortunately, Sportsrep, it appears that the book isn't available in the UK, so you may not be able to get your hands on a copy but it's really worth the read... I do wonder why it isn't available in the UK? Any idea? I think that it would be a good idea to get the book out there to the people of the UK who are the ones who have been dealing with this controversy for the longest time.