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U.S. FDA Approves the Dexcom G4? PLATINUM Continuous Glucose Monitor (CGM)

Discussion in 'Continuous Glucose Sensing' started by Ellen, Oct 8, 2012.

  1. kiwikid

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    and we were told that the sensors and transmitter would be cheaper to compensate for the 6 month life of the new transmitter :(
     
  2. karri

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    Warranty is for 6 months. Remains to be seen how long these things will actually last.
     
  3. kiwikid

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    We have our Vibe pump and can get the Gen 4 supplies - according to both the Animas rep and Dexcom, the battery will last 6 months once activated...
    But it seems that you will get 2 transmitters with your new system so you're covered for a year anyway... :)
     
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    I haven't heard about the two transmitters. That would be great
     
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    The rep I talked to last night when I ordered said they are not concerned at all about getting 1 year coverage insurance companies to adjust their coverage to replace the G4 transmitters if they go bad after 6 months. Not sure how they're so sure, but worth the chance for me either way since we're out of warranty on the 7+ and over our 1 year since it was purchased.
     
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    Atleast in Europe you get 1 transmitter..
     
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    Atleast the European version doesnt have this. I would assume its the same for US version...
     
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    I read in another thread "No". Crazy isn't it?
     
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    Disappointing that sensor cost is going up about $7 per. I think I read long ago that G4 sensors could be cheaper to produce due to automated manufacture vs hand-made. Could be totally wrong.

    The transmitters raise the system cost significantly and I wish the battery were replaceable so you don't throw out the brains/computer chip every 6 months. I am sure there are advantages to never fussing with batteries but now that transmitter is powering 4x greater wireless range and contains the brains, it seems an unfortunate design choice.
     
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    I thought it was going to be G5 thats gonna integrate transmitter + "brains" into same unit.
     
  11. Don

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    Oh, you're right, Karri, so the price increase is basically for the greater wireless range. Of course price differences affect everyone differently depending on the quality of their insurance and size of their wallet.
     
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    The Navigator transmitter had a battery that you needed to change out every 2-4 weeks. You definitely got range with it - like 30 feet easily. I got 40-50 sometimes. The battery compartment was poorly made and changing the battery (or water leaking in) was a major problem with the Navigator.
     
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    is the clarke error grid results any better than previous versions or competitors?

    is the clarke error grid results any better than previous versions or competitors?
     
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    "The battery compartment was poorly made and changing the battery (or water leaking in) was a major problem with the Navigator."

    Sure seems like this is easily fixed with robust redesign of the receiver. I'd love to see the Nav re-enter the US market but I guess Abbott is still deciding whether or not they want to invest the resources.
     
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    Well, I got the new Nav fron Israel. The transmitter pin broke after 11 months, and not the plastic setpin has broken off. I am soo diasappointed, as a new transmitter is $880 USA, and of course insurance cannot cover since it is an out of country purchase. Hopefully the new Dex4G... will work for me. The dex 7+ never gives consistant results, and I Do know how to use it.
     
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    Did you see there was a newer version of the Navigator released during a big European diabetes conference recently? I haven't heard anything about it but someone here posted a link. No idea if it is any better made but I'd be curious to know how it changed.
     
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    could you post link?
     
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    The Navigator 2.0

    It has a capsuled battery in the transmitter. Waranty is 1 year.
    It has a capsuled reloadable battery cell in the rreceiver. Warranty 2 years.
    The display is colored and shows now the date of the displayed curve.
    The sensor is the same as before but the transmitter device is all over smaller.
    There are 8 different sounds to choice for alarm signaling.
    The loudness of alarms is decreased.
    The receiver is a little bit smaller but more unhandsome.
    It will be launched in Europe in the next few weeks.
    It has no FDA approval yet.
    The price is increased by 25% for the starting kit. Sensors pricing is the same as before.

    Over all the Navi 2.0 seems to be more an disimprovement than a step foreward.

    At least I am (and not only me) hoping that our Navigators 1.5 oder 1.0 will last still a long time and that the sensors therefore will be available a long time too.

    Regards
    Joa
     
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    Wow Joa - thanks for that info. I hadn't been able to find anything about it. If you run across any photos please post them. I might repost this in a separate thread if you haven't already!

     
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    I heard from the medtronic rep that the navigator will be discontinued also in Europe. Also she told me that the enlite sensor is 98% correct at catching lows and its MARD is 11% if you use the pump as it has the second generation algorythm. The CGM receiver has the first generation and that is why it can not be as accurate -I think it is about 78%. Dexcom 4 has MARD 13% which is not as good as the enlite. Any thoughts?
     

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