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Lockdown question

Discussion in 'Parents of Children with Type 1' started by Sarah Maddie's Mom, Feb 27, 2013.

  1. Sarah Maddie's Mom

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    Just wondering if anyone has experienced an actual "lockdown" at school and how that went when the kids were finally evacuated.

    We had a "real" one today and it pretty much failed all our plans. DD was without her low kit for about 4 hours and while she was fine, I feel that the plan needs a tweak.:rolleyes:
     
  2. cm4kelly

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    Can you explain it -

    My son is in K-5. We do have a 504 - but I have never thought of a lockdown plan! Can you share what your plan had in place?

    I actually teach at a local middle school. We went on lockdown a few weeks ago for about an hour after an incident in a local neighborhood. Since there is really no warning except an announcement - "go into lockdown immediately" - I am thinking of this from a teacher's perspective. What should teachers do in this case?

    I keep an extra testing kit and low supplies in my son's backpack in the classroom - but what if he is somewhere else?

    Just curious - because I haven't heard about this plan yet. I would appreciate your ideas or others from the forum.
     
  3. Sarah Maddie's Mom

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    Well, that's just it. I have supplied every classroom with a tupperware with 2 juice boxes and a roll of tabs in the event that she's be stuck there but today she was just finishing lunch in the cafeteria and the lock down went into effect. She and the 100 other kids were herded into a back kitchen and not allowed to bring thier bags, then evacuated to an adjacent intermediate school building then onto buses which were locked in traffic for an hour.

    Other than some prevision that would permit her to bring her bag in the event of an evacuation or carrying tabs literally on her person, I'm not sure how to mitigate this. But it I will have to think about it... she was under 80 when the whole thing began.:confused:
     
  4. mysweetwill

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    I have a real fear of this. Im glad your daughter didn't need her supplies during that time. This was our first school year with D and I made boxes filled with fast acting sugars for every classroom my son has instruction in, including the library, art room, gym, etc. Of course, during a lockdown he could be pulled into any room and all he will have is the roll of tabs in his pocket.
    We had a lockdown a week after Newtown but he was in his classroom and it was relatively short. My friend who lives in Newtown told me that after the tragedy her school nurse required fast acting sugars be kept in every room of the building for her son. She was trying to figure out how to make that happen- I think sugar packets was decided upon.
    Our 504 says that during a lockdown the teacher will ensure that his supplies are with him. Is it practical or even possible? I dont know.

    (and his 504 also says he can keep fast acting sugars on his person, which he does always have)
     
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  5. Megnyc

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    Do they carry book bags? In my middle/high school all the girls carried tote bags with their books. My parents made kits with a meter, strips, poker, smarties, cake icing tubes, and syringes and I had one in my book bag. Each room in the school, dining hall included had clear back packs that the teacher/staff member was to grab in any sort of emergency and those had the kits in them as well. They also had glucagon. I was in a small school though and there were only 16 teachers or so.

    Sorry that is scary. I don't know how comfortable Maddie is with temp basals but when I am in a situation like that I usually do a .05 temp basal so I run a little higher and don't have to worry about lows.

    Edited: Ok I saw above. I think she just needs to be allowed to bring her bag with her or at least some glucose tabs. I can't really think of another solution.
     
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    My husband mentioned something scary in a ct school district, I'm assuming that was yours. :(

    Hanna always has a roll of tabs with her meter, hopefully she would be able to grab it. Putting in a temp basal sounds like a great idea too.
     
  7. Sarah Maddie's Mom

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    Luckily everyone was fine :cwds:I appreciate your thinking of us '-) The school calls the lockdown the result of, "an abundance of caution" but it brought Newtown to the fore and I think the kids, while not at risk, were frightened. :( Meanwhile we have to figure out how to plan for more complex contingencies... bummer

    As for carrying a hand bag/purse, nope... just schleps her backpack around as she complains that her locker is too far away to be practical... must make some sort of plan. I had always approached lock-downs as being stuck in one room, I hadn't considered an evacuation...:rolleyes:
     
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    Thank you for posting this. I am sure this must have been incredibly scary and alarming for you....
    I am very interested in what everyone has to say, because for me, and I'm sure many others, it will be really helpful going forward.
     
  9. mmgirls

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    I know our health clinic has a "box" that they are supposed to grab in case of an evacuation for what ever reason: fire, lock down, or earthquake. If it did not make it out and she did not have anything to be found then they would call the fire department and let them know. I know that that sounds extreme, but it really is not, I have personally spoken to our local fire department and they know about our D kids at the school, along with the other kids with health or mobility issues.

    Also like you we have tabs in the "specials" classrooms, I have considered putting tabs in the "wall mounted" first aid kits in the common areas but her school is pretty small and thought it was overkill.

    Utimately this is a learning experience for your dd to try to take 2 seconds to check her surounding for a sugar source that she can grab, and to start a temp basal if need be. To advocate that she needs to try to speak to the person in charge to make them aware of the situation so that they know what bus she is on and where it went.

    Does she have a cell phone?
     
  10. Sarah Maddie's Mom

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    Yes, she has a cell and she did communicate to the security officer ( who knows her) but even Bill, in the business of a serious lockdown and evacuation, while he tried, he was unable to find her backpack amidst the many left behind. They were really focused on getting the kids out - ASAP.

    I'll give the nurse a day - I know she'll be swamped tomorrow but we have to come up with some sort of a plan
     
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    This is when I appreciate that my dd is well know within the school, from the Principal and the building supervisor and janitors.
     
  12. Sarah Maddie's Mom

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    Well, Bill knows Maddie and has been part of her Type 1 care since her transition to middle school 3 years ago so it's not so much that she was caught in the "maddening crowd" but that a sudden evacuation is complicated, full of surprises and hard to plan for.
     
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    At my children's school they are forbidden to take their backpacks with them into the "safe place" in case of a lock down. I know this because I advised my children to take their backpacks with them if there was a lock down and to put it and anybody and anything else between them and the door to protect their heads, chests and backs. According to my daughter, that is a no can do. The safe places are walk-in closet type rooms and they can't take anything with them due to very limited space. Of course, in our children's situations, there should be an exception, but I doubt very seriously if anyone would remember to grab the necessary supplies except one of us, as a parent.

    I probably should make sure my son at least has glucose tabs in his pocket at all times. Another thing I thought of is...in case of a lock down, most children would be escorted to a pre-determined closet or area of the room. Maybe I could at least make sure that area of his classroom, gym, music room, etc. has glucose nearby.

    Surely, if it were a situation other than a lock down (a fire or a tornado) I would be able to get to him before anything catastrophic happened with his blood glucose. At least I pray that is the case.
     
  14. Beach bum

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    This has totally got me rethinking our plan. Our plan has always been based on an orderly evacuation (ie. drill scenario), but I've been thinking about it frequently since Newtown and listening to my niece's story about their lockdown that day (allowed to move in the building, but carry nothing). I will check in with the school about protocol when we get back on Monday. My daughter carries a kit with her at all times, except for lunch. She drops her kit and her books in the nurses room.

    It's hard, she's great at carrying her kit, but there is always a chance of forgetting, and I know other than in her trumpet case, there's no way she'll carry any other form of sugar on her person. All of her specials have glucose on site, but I don't necessarily know how quickly she could access it in a time of chaos.

    So glad your daughter was OK.
     
  15. liasmommy2000

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    No, but my dd carries all supplies other than extra insulin in her purse which goes wherever she goes. She's not to leave the classroom, even to go to the bathroom or run to the office without it.

    So really the only problem would be if her pump failed in that time, which *knock wood* is highly unlikely to happen at the same time as a lock down. Oh it could but I'd say the chance is very low.

    Can your dd carry her supplies (sorry if it's been dealt with, haven't read other replies yet)?

    ETA-A few weeks ago they had a soft threat or whatever they called it and kids were not allowed to carry bags or purses. However an exception was made for those with a medical need. Dd was allowed her purse and my nephew with asthma/allergies was allowed to carry his mini back pack with inhaler, epi-pen etc. Now they were taken and searched both mornings but given back after a few minutes. My nephew was left without his for a few minutes as the principal searched a bunch of bags but she brought it down to him in the classroom. DD refused to leave the office until they gave her bag back to her.
     
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    I'm not in that situation but Emma did get trapped on a roller coaster at Disney in January for about 20 minutes and it made me think about it a bit more. For us, my big concern would be lows. So, I am now better about having her tuck a pack of fruit snacks places when she goes somewhere. She now has packs of fruit snacks tucked in every coat pocket and sometimes even throws them in her jeans. Unless she trapped for more than 12 hours, I won't be too worried about highs - we'll just deal with them when she would get released. But lows would be the concern so I would definitely have her have fruit snacks and also advise her to reduce basal if there is any chance she's going too low in a lockdown or trapped type situation
     
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    In my DS's 504 states that he must keep his bag with him at all times. The students are not supposed to carry their bags - they keep them in their lockers. He even brings it outside with him if they go out for gym.
     
  18. Sarah Maddie's Mom

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    Yes, DD has the same provision. The problem comes when a sudden emergency arrises and the bag is perhaps on the other side of the room, or in our case the other side of the cafeteria and the kids are shuttled into a crowded enclosed space by whoever is on duty and told expressly that they CANNOT retrieve their belongings. When the adult on duty thinks that there is someone with a gun in the school they are not going to have the time to listen to an explanation from a student as to why they should be permitted to grab their bag.
     
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    I never thought about that. Charlie has a bag that travels with him everywhere except lunch.

    I just recently found out that in middle and high school the kids aren't allowed to carry backpacks or wear coats during school. They have to leave them in their locker.
     
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    Nor can we expect them to possibly put themselves in danger by dashing off to get the bag. I'm thinking for the short term to put one of those Quick Sticks in her pump pack (99.9% of time she wears one to school) so she at least has that on hand.
     

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