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Discussion in 'Parents of Children with Type 1' started by mandif3, Mar 3, 2010.

  1. mandif3

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    This is only my second post as I am new here. My 9 year old son was dx'd 2/9/10. He came home from school today and said that at lunch his BG was 73 so he had to eat lunch in the nurse's office. His friend that escorts him to the nurse chose to eat in the cafeteria instead of eating in the nurses office with him. He said he was bummed about it. I feel so bad for him and angry that he has to go through this. It really sucks! I suppose that this is what our lives are going to be like from now on. I just can't stand the thought of him being lonely or left out or considered different because of his Diabetes. Any suggestions or similar stories happen to any one else?
     
  2. bgallini

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    Awww....that is sad. What if the nurse gave him fast acting carbs to bring his bg up and then sent him to lunch with the others? He might need to go down to check his bg a little earlier to do it this way but I think it would be better for him to be able to eat with his friends.
     
  3. Julie mom of Jack 6 dxd 3

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    When my son was diagnosed we had a kid that told everyone not to be his friend because he had D. The counselor talked to the kids and it really helped/ I have to say Jack has never felt left out and kids go out of their way to help him. I would tell the nurse to just have him drink his juice quick and then send him to lunch to eat and stop back after for the recheck. Really if he is awake and eating I am sure he would be fine. Thats what we have always done with Jack. I know it is hard to see in the begining but things do get back to normal Jack plays flag football, baseball and is on a competitve swim team in the water 4 days a week. Things are always a little different but more for us than them. Hang in there!
     
  4. Becky Stevens mom

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    Oh wait a minute! Oh first welcome:) Im not sure why he would have to eat in the nurses office. If his BGs are a little low he should have a glucotab or 2 given his insulin injection and sent to lunch with his buddies. The fast acting carbs will keep him up long enough to get some food into him and the insulin wont start doing anything for about 10 minutes and even then wont drop him quickly. Your son wont ever have to feel different about his diabetes. I bet Jay Cutler quarterback from the Chicago bears doesnt or Nick Jonas from the Jonas brothers band either. They both have type 1 diabetes and do just what they want to do. Discuss this with the nurse and make sure she understands that its important for your son to be able to sit with his pals for lunch
     
  5. Mistync991

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    first of all welcome sorry you have had to find us but you can learn allot here...second as said earlier maybe next time she could treat the low as she would any other time of day then allow him to go enjoy lunch with his friends ...we have never had this situation because so far we have been blessed to have someone with my dd all day so if she is low at lunch she just goes with the class and gets ahead in the line and we recheck and just dont cover all of the carbs when we bolus after she eats(normally we bolus bg and half carbs up front and other half after she eats where i have a picky eater)
     
  6. Kayla and Ethan's Mom

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    Hey! Welcome. My daughter, who is 6, has been on the lower side before lunch before like that. Our school nurse will just give her a few crackers or couple of sips of juice and send her on her way. She's on the way to lunch anyway, so she only has a few minutes before she sits down to eat. This has always worked well for her! I would just have a talk with the nurse and come up with a plan if it happens again. The only time Kayla has been held in the office is if she is low and isn't coming up right away. Then she stays until the nurse is comfortable with her returning to her class.

    Good luck and hang in there, you'll get it all worked out. Just keep communication open with your school nurse.
     
  7. Sarah Maddie's Mom

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    Hi and welcome.

    I agree that eating lunch in the nurses office is no fun! And sort of gross, too. :p If it's a public school and you have a 504 you can stipulate how you want situations like this handled. If you don't have a 504, you really should as it makes setting policy much more straight forward. The simple and most common solution, as pps have stated is to have the child eat X number of fast carbs - go have lunch and then swing by the nurse's office to bolus after.

    Hope you can work something out so that it doesn't happen again.:cwds:
     
  8. Flutterby

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    HI, and welcome..

    I agree.. he shouldn't have to eat lunch in the nurse's office.. if its a public school and you don't have a 504, get one asap. talk with the nurse.. 70s isn't extremely low.. maybe a better option would be the nurse, or another adult, walk him to the caf, make sure he gets his lunch asap, and starts eating with his friends.. and then they go on their way.. I know you are so new to this, and its all scary, you'll figureout what works best for your son.. the goal is to make him no different than his peers.. by eating in the nurse's office, he's being singled out.. I hope you can change that.

    Good luck! :)
     
  9. BeerMargaritaMom

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    Hi and welcome. I have been a member for some time but I don't get on a whole lot. I'm sorry you had a reason to find these forums.
    Anyway - I have two kiddos with T1 in school.
    If my kiddos are below 60 before lunch I have asked the nurse to give them 10 - 15 grams of carbs, wait 1 min for each carb given and then recheck - I ask her to use the new BS to dose for their lunch. We do that because otherwise they end up high 2 hours after lunch. The nurse does not include the carbs given to get their BS up when counting lunch carbs.
    It has worked well for us, yes my kids sometimes get upset about missing a little lunch time but they always have time to finsih their lunches and what they really miss is the 10 - 15 min of silent eating time anyway.
    Perhaps your school nurse could consider this option. My kids also dose after they eat because we are never sure if they will eat their entire lunch or not and i don't want the nurse to have to push carbs on them if they are not hungry just to match their dose. If they are high (above 200) before lunch I have the nurse do a correction dose prior to eating and then do a normal bolus based on the carb ratio rather than using the ezcarb option on the pump. Obviously my kids are pumpers and I appoligize I don't recall if your kiddo is using a pump yet so some of this info may sound weird to you.
    hope I gave you something to use though.
    ((((Hugs)))))
     
  10. Legend0710

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    Welcome,

    Although we have not dealt with this situation. Your right he should not have to be singled out. But with dealing with the school nurse she may need to be educated on how to handle your sons D.

    In our small town our school nurse didn't know much about it and I had to explain everything. Which as we all know you can't cover in 15min. I finally told the nurse to call me and I would basically tell her what to do. Our son is older so it is easier for him to know what to do on his own now. But it can be frustrating to have to tell the nurse everything.

    A 504 is defiantly something you need.(if you don't have it yet)

    Being so newly diagnosed it can be so overwhelming at times. It does get easier ;:rolleyes: and you get a new norm.
     
  11. PatriciaMidwest

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    I would give the school nurse a call. She may just be overprotective, but it is affecting your child and I would want her to stop asap.

    We had the most fabulous school nurse in elementary school. If dd was low at lunchtime, she had juice right there in her office and then she would walk my daughter to the cafeteria and put her at the front of the lunch line, all with a smile on her face and a bounce in her step.

    I hope you can talk your school nurse into doing similar to this, your son should not have to eat lunch alone in her office. Makes me sad just thinking about it.

    Hope it all works out!
     
  12. mandif3

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    Thank you all for the much appreciated advice. I talked to his teacher today and she said the nurse was just trying to err on the side of caution as my son does not yet know how to recognize his symptoms of a low. I guess I can she was just trying to get to know him a little better. There are 6 other D kids in the school. His BG was the same today and they let him eat in the cafeteria with his pals. We're still so new at this that it can be really overwhelming at times still.
     
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    Hello and welcome. I hope you find another family here that will bring to you much comfort and help. There are many great people here with tons of information.

    I'm so sorry for your son. Maybe you could gently talk to the nurse and put a procedure in place in the 504 to make sure you son does not feel left out again. There must be caution used with a low and maybe the nurse was being a conservative mother hen and I'm sure she did not mean any harm. The nurse may be new to having a type 1 child she is responsible for at school. I'm sure she will be willing to do what she can so your son does not feel different from other children.

    Everyone handles lows differently. When my daughters blood sugar is low before a meal I treat the low first. I then pre bolus her for the meal. I will explain why I follow this procedure now. I have before allowed her to go ahead and eat her meal only covering the carbs she is going to eat. She has come to me while eating and checked her blood sugar and she is lower. What happens is the food she is eating is not a fast acting carb and the blood sugar continues to drop. I made the mistake of not treating the low first, a few times. When I say I treat, I use glucose tabs or juice.

    I tried a yogurt a couple of times and she kept dropping. I had to give fast acting carbs. My mistake in learning. The Endo. explained that it will take about 30 minutes for the yogurt to get into the blood stream and I will always need to use fast acting sugar to treat lows. My understanding is insulin starts working at 10 minutes, some I have heard say 15 minutes.
     
  14. Kimby

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    Hi & welcome! I'm so sorry that you are dealing with this! Our school nurse & teacher were really overprotective when Andrew was first diagnosed too. They meant well. The teacher decided that Andrew needed to eat lunch with her so that she could monitor what he ate, but that he could bring a friend. The nurse wanted him to have a buddy every time he went to the bathroom. It was hard adjusting to diabetes, being emotionally & physically exhausted, and trying to decide what battles to fight. I'm a teacher, so I know that I can't write medical orders, but other than that parent trumps nurse. We tolerated the bathroom buddy for the remainder of the school year while Andrew learned what it felt like to be low. We vetoed the eating with the teacher, but agreed to having him sit at the end of the table where she could see that he wasn't trading food. Now, he eats anywhere he wants. If he is low before lunch, the nurse treats him & walks him down to lunch.

    Now that Andrew knows his body, the school nurse isn't nearly so overprotective. She is a great asset to us. The teachers and nurse were trying to keep him safe in the short term. I felt like I also had to fight the battle of establishing a healthy outlook on the disease. I promise things will get easier!
     
  15. McKenna'smom

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    I feel your pain. After my DD was diagnosed last year and returned to school, she spent far too many lunch periods eating in the nurses office because of lows. Fortunately,we were able to work on giving her an uncovered snack in the morning and now she usually has no lows at lunch and can eat with the other kids. Keep the faith.
     
  16. RosemaryCinNJ

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    I have to agree...73 ..was headed towards a low but it was lunchtime! The nurse could of given him a fast acting and sent him for his lunch with his friends..:( Nobody wants to eat lunch in the nurses office...
     

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