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activity problam at school pt2

Discussion in 'Parents of Children with Type 1' started by 3js, May 7, 2008.

  1. 3js

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    I posted the other day about unplanned activity at school. Just let me preface this: the school has been trained, but there are NO LAWS in my province regarding d-care, glucagon. Also there is tons of extra food/water/supplies in the classroom.

    The problem was that the kids ( all the classes) are being sent out during class times to do laps. And it is spur of the moment, for unknown duration.

    I found out yesterday, this is a program in place in several districts. The whole point is that it be unplanned: grab a few laps whenever you can. They just send the kids out whenever there is an extra 5,10,15,20 ect min. It can be several times a day. Then the kids are awarded at assembly for their efforts after a certain amount of laps.

    It is giving him crazy numbers during the school day.

    I have a meeting planned Thurs am at school. I want them to commit to ONE time, preplanned during the day. But in needs to be for the whole school for his class not to suffer in the competition. What some staff have said thus far: he should just not participate.:mad:

    I am mad, because he missed the trackmeet already: I had a fever/sick as a dog, and they didn`t want him there without me. It seems like they don`t want to deal with him sometimes.

    If you have read this far thanks,lol:)
     
  2. Flutterby

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    if its a competition type thing, thats just not fair that he not participate.. I'm sure he'd feel so left out.. but how about he be able to keep something on or near him, so that when they say, ok, lets go do 5 laps, he can eat something quick, maybe a glucose tab and some PB crackers, or a granola bar.. something like that.. I would hope they are OK with him testing before he goes and does that.. and then depending on his number, he chooses a snack, if he's on the lower side some quick acting sugar, and then something with protein, if he's on the higher side, maybe just leave it alone, or no quick acting, but something little with protein so he doesn't drop fast..

    I can see their point in making it a spur of the moment type thing, but they also need to think of him.. I'm sure the teacher isn't saying, OK lets go.. she probably knows early that day at least and just the kids don't know.. or she's got to know 10minutes before they do it.. common, they are teachers, everything is planned.. that what they do LOL..

    I hope you get the school to understand that taking a minute or two to get him to check and feed can make a huge difference to him, and won't put the class in 'danger' of not doing their laps..
     
  3. Nancy in VA

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    I have a feeling that you won't get far with asking them to do something different for the ENTIRE SCHOOL than the rest of the district.

    I imagine that its generally when a teacher finishes a subject quicker than she imagines, or the kids finish their work early, then they are like "Great, lets go get some laps in". Maybe you can have some 10-15 carb snacks in his desk (granola bars, etc) that he can grab on the way out the door and eat while he starts his laps.

    I just imagine even with a 504 in the US you'd have a hard time getting an entire school to change for one child - accomodations really don't work that way - so I would encourage you to maybe get a little bit of compromise from them and then work with your child to accomodate it - I wouldn't want to be the child whose mom made it so that we couldn't do the contest for the laps
     
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    I would be ever so grateful if the school systems here did something like that. Heck, ours are even thinking of kicking out recess, those children NEED to move.

    matt never goes to gym without drinking a juice box first. Reguardless... he does not test, he just drinks becouse, his activity will compensate for this. Perhaps you could just have your child take in a 15 carb snack before going out to run...

    If you have issues, then dont have your child do this. You can certainly compensate him for any "reward" the school offers at some point in time for this. Big picture here is, its not fair to punish 30 classroom kids, or the entire school for 1. Probably, there are more kids who also must sit out for medical needs you are unaware of, severe asthma or another reason.

    Life isnt fair. It will never be fair. We were handed the D card, and life is an unfair adjustment period every second and with every breath.
     
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    yes, the cutting out recess is ridiculous, and they won't why school age kids are overweight, lazy, and so many more have ADHD problem.. I bet some extra recess would take care of that!
     
  6. mom to a sports nut

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    We were always able to manage the ups and downs in activities so I really don't have any advice but wish you lots of luck dealing with the school.

    Did you hear back from C. (the pump nurse) about training??
     
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    This is a tough one because the activity is so random. Most type 1's (I think -from what I've read) generally put a lot of consideration into their exercise timing so as to keep things in balance. Not that you can't ever be spontaneous but daily erratic exercising seems the most difficult of all challenges to figure out.

    I agree with others though that you're probably not going to get them to change the whole school. Is it possible that he could have a set time? Perhaps work closely with the pedi endo if you have a good one - to help figure out what he can do to manage otherwise.
     
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    What province are you from again? I seem to remember you are from NS? Here in NB there are laws and it's called the 704. Close to the 504 in the US huh? I remember going to a JDRF support meeting soon after Emma's DX and that was the main topic. They said that by the time Emma would be in school, that it would be in place... I guess they were right :) I don't know how it's like in other provinces, but they should move the 704 to the federal level. It's only right.

    As for the unexpected laps, that sounds like a good idea... Wouldn't want to do that in the winter though... Specially after all the snow we got. I don't know what I'd do if they started doing this at Emma's school. There would definitely be a chat with the principal for sure to ensure Emma's safety. I don't think I'd want them to check Emma's BG every time they decided to go out for an unexpected run. Don't think the laps would crash her at all. I'd warn Emma and her teacher to make sure she's ok before and after the run and if there's any doubt to check for sure.

    Sorry about the in-coherent post, I was just typing out thoughts (thinking loudly if you will) as they came along and didn't follow any structure.
     
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    Emma's Dad, answering for 3js (as we are 'neighbours') We are out west.

    As for running in the snow, we had more snow than many years past this year, but it probably only totaled about 10 days - 2 weeks!!!! One of the joys of our part of the country, we all complained about it at that too!
     
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    You are right. It is EXTREMELY difficult to have spontaneous exercise of that intensity. Timing of exercise is a huge consideration in planning a day.
     
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    Thanks everyone:)

    I guess you may all be right about changing things for the whole school. It is the spontaneous nature of this that I have issue with, for his asthma too. He can do ANYTHING, he just needs to prepare. He needs his asthma meds 30min prior to exercise in cold weather too.

    It just p***** me off that they do nothing in terms of help/reminders/life saving measures, but think nothing of ADDING to his load.

    I am just sick of the whole thing. :eek:
     
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    I can't really wrap my head around the concept of sending kids outside at random times of day to run around a track (they sounds like lab rats!).

    With all the problems it causes I would just see if he wouldn't rather sit it out and focus more on the organized sports that he does (like track right?). Or perhaps have him participate in just one erratic run per day and try to see what works to keep him from going low (or high) and then try adding in a 2nd run, etc.

    I'm sure he doesn't want to be different than the other kids but if this is affecting his overall health, his ability to focus on academics, and ability to compete in other sports, etc. then it isn't worth it.
     
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    My daughter would have LOVED this when she was in school - finish a subject early and get to get a few minutes of fresh air.

    I also think it can be great conditioning to build up endurance and muscle strength.

    There is SO much focus on academics and squeezing way too much into a day and a year, that I think taking spontaneous 10 minute runs is great - its also great for your brain too!
     
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    As long as the teacher is giving enough notice for him to test and eat a snack if necessary, I wouldn't think there would be any problems. I know that I don't schedule Tylers "free-time" activity levels for the weekends, or after school, somedays he may play vigoriously for hours and other days he may be more low key. Besides our kids scheduled sports, do we tell them how hard they can play at certain times of the day and plan their days around that?

    Last year Tyler class got extra recess at the end of the day if they finished their work, and it was great for them, and great for the teacher!!! Wish he still had that this year!
     
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    No, there is not enough time to check first, and I doubt he could be counted on to do so on his own if there were- there is NO help/reminder/supervision for diabetes at school.

    If it were a few minutes of fresh air, or an extra recess, it wouldn`t be such a big deal. But it is HIGH LEVEL activity- sprinting laps around the track. He is fighting highs after, is low later, it`s a real hassle. If I raise the carb ratio in the morning, and they end up NOT going out, I`ve run him high all day for nothing.

    I am pretty much resigned now to being told to suck it up tomorrow though, lol.
     
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    All I can think of is to find a snack he can at to compensate. His Dr. should be able to give you easy snack ideas that he can eat before or right after the exercise. He would not need to be exact but something to keep him from going low later. He cold always just have something like an extra granola bar in his desk to use. i.e send a box once a week to school or something. The asthma I would think would be more critical. Good luck. Ali
     
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    Does the teacher happen to have a fridge in her classroom? Maybe he could keep a good sized gatorade in there and drink some before he runs? :confused:
     
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    Good News!

    We met with the teacher and principal this am. They are going to have it be at a set time after lunch, which will simplify things a lot! Now I can safely do corrections at recess/lunch, and have a reasonable carb ratio, because all the other variables (meals/activity) will be done for the day. And I can plan:D

    It is just his class, but it shouldn`t affect the competition, as they will have a bit longer out there. woohoo.:)
     
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    Great news!:)
     
  20. mom to a sports nut

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    Glad it went well. How long has he been diagnosed for? Does he still have his 3.5 hours a week of SEA time?
     

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