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    Anastacia is getting a wheezy cough. I swear it sounds like Croup (I remember as a kid listening to my parents in a steamy bathroom with my younger brother). Another thing is that it is only at night, the very early hours of the morning (when its coldest) and I wake to her with that awful cough, and batteling for breath.
    At first I thought it was another chest infection, but considering its only at night, no fever, and only occassionally one or two coughs over the entire day, I think it's most likely croup.
    I have severe asthma though, so I hope to god she doesn't get that... its nearly claimed my life on more then one occassion... she has enough to deal with, with diabetes. What do you think? Does your kiddo have it? Does it upset BSL levels (hers was up in the night)? I plan to take her to the DR early next week if it doesn't settle down, or to the hospital if it gets worse at all during the nights.

    Kelly, Mummy to two gorgeous kids!

    Anastacia Rose
    4 in August

    Diabetic @ 10 months (06/06/06)
    Epileptic & Coeliac...
    Alexander Ryan
    2 in May
    Anitbodies NEGATIVE for Diabetes
    Type 1 Family Hx:
    My lil bro, G-G'ma, G-G'ma's son, & FIL
    Genetic Differentiated Immunosupressive Disorder

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    Hi Kelly

    Sorry to hear that Anastacia is poorly. It does sound like croup to me, especially as it is mainly at night.
    I found an article that may help:

    http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/diseases/...seudocroup.htm

    Hope she gets better soon.

    {{Hugs****
    Jackie

    Mom to Ben, 13 dx'd 10th April 06
    Type 1, injecting MDI, Lantus and NovoRapid.
    Mom to Luke, 11, non diabetic.

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    Thanks for the link... very interesting, she has only just got over a chest infection so very likely indeed, I will give it a few days as I said to resolve, or take her to the hospital if it gets worse at night over the weekend. She looks perfect during the day, apart from being tired from lack of sleep.

    Kelly, Mummy to two gorgeous kids!

    Anastacia Rose
    4 in August

    Diabetic @ 10 months (06/06/06)
    Epileptic & Coeliac...
    Alexander Ryan
    2 in May
    Anitbodies NEGATIVE for Diabetes
    Type 1 Family Hx:
    My lil bro, G-G'ma, G-G'ma's son, & FIL
    Genetic Differentiated Immunosupressive Disorder

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    William has had problems with asthma since before his diabetes diagnosis - the asthma showed up around 6 months old. Since you already have asthma I think I don't need to tell you what to look for in your child. I did notice with William that he would be very restless, unable to sleep well if at all, and taking many breaths per minute - I usually counted them. You can find the info on the web but depending on their age - something like 40 or more per minute for a really young kid would be too much.

    After he got diabetes and when he'd get an asthma attack his bgl would go much higher for no other apparent reason except that. (that is before we started the meds) If they go on prednisone you will need to talk to your pedi endo as that literally tripled the dosage for insulin that William needed. Prednisone was a nightmare! I hope you don't have to go through that.

    That being said I know zero about croup! When in doubt I've taken William to our HMO evening emergency care and they check his oxygen level.

    As a completely side note - asthma and allergies often go together so I wanted to note to be careful with highly allergenic foods - especially peanut butter, shellfish, eggs, etc. I gave William some peanut butter on a cracker at 27 months (should have waited until he was 3) and he had a total anaphylactic reaction to it and is now touch allergic to peanut butter. I wish I had known the risks back then. Hopefully your child is wired differently!
    Carol G.
    mom to William, age 11, dx'd 3/04 and started pumping 10/04 - Animas 1200. Animas Ping started 01/09; cgms Navigator start 4/6/09; RIP Navigator 9-1-11, Dexcom 7+start 10/11, G4 start 11/12.
    and mom to Rod (15) not D

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    Unfortunately, I have much croup experience with my non-D children. When she has an episode, of course you can try the shower. However, I have found that if you take the child outside on a cool night for a few minutes that this will help their breathing. This reduces the swelling of the airway. If it isn't cool where you are, then a ride in the car with the A/C on high will have the same effect. If the wheezing is really bad then go from shower straight to cool. If this does't do the trick, then I would definitely take her to the Dr. My children have had to take orapred on many occasions to fight croup(beware this is a steriod and can wreak havoc on blood sugar). I hope this is what you are dealing with. I agree the D is enough for your little one to deal with. Best wishes and hope you get this thing figured out.
    Kristi
    Mother of Braden, 10 (dx'd 12/12/05 Pumping Minimed with CGMS) and Celiac
    Lauren, 7
    Ansley, 5
    Eli, 2

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    Jacob has had coup since he was diag. Hi Pedi put him on Prednisone and it was a complete nightmare. Ketones, high BS, we would have to give him shots every 2 hours to keep the ketones away, and if he dropped low and still had ketones, we had to give him juice to bring him back up to give him his sliding scale shot again. That was the worst 3 days.

    I hope it isn't croup. Hang in there.
    Mom to Jacob and Kameron
    Jacob: 6-29-02; diag 10-3-05; Pumping at 4 yo
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    AWWW, thats to bad that little anastasia isnt feeling great.. IT does sound like croup.. we have had it a few times...my non-d kid ( Sean ) had it about 6 months ago.. we had to do a steriod shot... we took him to doc in the morning adn they missed the croup.. sent me home and adv to give OVC meds, well he took a nap and woke up weezing so bad it was hard to breath, i had to rush him to the urgent care, got the shot and he was better in hours. amazing.. but again non d kid and i have heard steriods can be rough on bs levels. Goodluck I hope she feels better soon.
    Chandra mom to

    Charlize age 10DX 1-4-05, Pumping with a lime green animas ping,

    Sean age 7 non diabetic, but positive for all 3 antibodies ( iaa, gad 65 and IA2 and the HLA gene is unprotected...

    wife to Allen

    http://www.childrenwithdiabetes.com/...a=view&id=1939

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    I also unfortunately have had ALOT of croup experience w/ Hunter since he was 15 months old. They [docs] say do the shower thing, did it, didn't work. They [docs]say take the kid out into the cold night air. Well it's 54 degrees at night right now. Not cold enough and it never worked even when it was 20 degrees outside. The only thing that reduced the inflammation for Hunter was always on the was to the ER in the middle of the night, I would open his window and let the cold air rush in on him. Everytime, by the time we reach the ER, he's just fine. But, usually w/ croup, you will need steroids and a breathing treatment or 2. We FINALLY got our own nebulizer because the ER bills were out of hand. So, on first wheez in the middle of the night [yes, croup is ALWAYS in the middle of the night] I get out the Albuterol and it usually gets things moving. THEN, I call the doc and see how many pulmicort treatments I should do over the next few days. BTW, get a REALLY good cool mist humidifier for the childs bedroom and keep the door shut. I usually have his ceiling fan going so it doesn't become jungle like in there. Hunter does not have asthma, but gets croup several times a year. Good Luck.

    Linda
    Mom to: Hunter, 10, dx'd 11/14/05, Revel 723, pumping since 11/2006 and Colby, 11, migraines

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    Default Asthma or Croup?

    My son was diagnosed with asthma prior to his D diagnosis (at 1 year old). He is not your "typical" asthmatic as he has an asthmatic cough rather than a typical wheeze. Also, his coughing fits happen only in early morning hours (2:00am ish). It took us a few trips to the ER, a chest X-ray and finally a pediatric pulmonary specialist until they diagnosed with asthma. I would definitely look into it especially if you have it yourself. They said that it is common for coughing asthmatics to have fits in the early morning.

    Mom of Zachary
    DOB 9/10/01 - Dx 9/04

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    Libby has mild asthma, she only tends to get it when she has a cold & I have not notice it affect her blood sugar levels.
    My son & I are severve asthmatics & he used to suffer from croup often- I swear by vapourisers.
    Tracy in Adelaide, Australia
    {Mum to 2 teens & Liberty (11) dxd July 2005, Pumping April 2006**

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