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Tamara Gamble
04-06-2007, 09:38 AM
For those of you who know me I have alot to tell you about our 504 experience. It's a long drawn out saga but I will try to keep it as brief as possible. Warning! It won't be brief.

Last July we started our 504 process. Everything was working out better than expected, more than I could ask for but then things went south, seriously south. To the point that the teachers were refusing any treatment for Tyler.

It has become clear to me as to why so many parents give up on the process but has become a valuable teaching tool as well.

Tyler is the first child to go to his junior high with type 1 diabetes. Knowing that the task would be voluminous I supplied the school with everything they needed to implement all that they would need to not just for Tyler but for those who followed. I offered my services because as with the rest of you everything that needs to be done has become second nature so for us it was all easy and we knew what needed to be done.

It started with me declining the proposed 504 for Tyler which basically stated he could take care of himself but did not impose any responsibility on the schools part. Not what a 504 is designed for. I issued a proposed 504 for Tyler.

Then the nurse from our doctors office did some training. She was so concerned with what the association of nurses wanted (a nurse in every school, as well as a back up) that she made the school believe that the task was to much for them. Forgetting that we don't have a nurse, our school can't afford a nurse, there is a shortage of nurses accross this country and there was a little boy who needed assistance regardless of her stance. So she procedded to pick apart the 504 that I had proposed using the DREDF guidlines and gave reasons as to why even classroom testing was inappropriate. In response to this I had our doctor, her boss sign a letter supporting the proposed 504, stating that by virtue of Ty's diagnosis that he qualified for a 504 etc. I also provided the OCR document on hidden disabilities.

The school then proceded to try to have our CDE review Ty's 504 and sign off on what she felt was neccesary and what she felt was not. Thankfully she stated to them that her sole purpose was to ensure Ty's safety and she would be happy to assist with training but would not be willing to do as they asked as Tyler and his mother would know exactly what he needed and that they should consult us.

I became a parent advocate for the ADA. They procedded to call the ADA to try to have them dismantle the proposed 504. This really ticked me off.

So basically they took every avenue that I had given them to help and tried to use it against us. It's much worse but I will spare you the details.

By November I issued a letter in response to the fact that is was November and the 504 plan was not completed providing federal documentation and always stating that we look forward to working in partnership with you etc. giving them next steps to follow and always signing respectfully, Tamara Gamble. They issued the letter to the teachers and really started to bad mouth us. The teachers then refused to treat Tyler at all.

Several letters were sent and we were going to file with the OCR. We had gone through all of the proper channels and followed appropriate protocol. I made one last ditch effort in January after our superintendant issued an executive directive for all teachers to treat Tyler with 4 oz. or juice whether he was high or low and then call 911. What a moron.

I pulled the board of directors in and laid it on the line. So this is where we are today.

In response to the situation with Tyler Gamble all schools in our district will have two health aides per school available for all students with current health issues. Ours being diabetes, asthma, hemophilia and seizures. All school employees will be trained in these areas before the start of each school year. The health aides will be trained quarterly to keep them up to par. Policies and procedures have been written in regards to all of these diseases. I participated in the diabetic portion. This will all be in place by next fall before the start of the school year with the exception of Tyler's school which is in effect now. Our county will be implementing policy and procedure in regards to diabetes. It's a start.

What it took for us to get there. Me being yelled at by grown men, having water bottles thrown past me into the garbage during our meetings, constant bullying by the school staff toward me. Meetings that would include their attornies, social workers, teachers, superintendants, principles from all schools and me. Tyler getting less than kind treatment at times, this is better now. A great deal of patience on my part, learning to stay steady even when they were behaving this way. Learning to be kind regardless of what they were saying and doing but not forgetting why I was there so holding fast to what I knew needed to happen for Tyler's sake. Keeping Tyler out of the know and speaking with him about ignorance and fear if he felt a little less than loved at school.

Realizing one day that I didn't need to be afraid. After all it took a whole county of people to try to figure out what I already knew so they weren't so scary after all, they were scared of me, of this disease, and we had not done a thing to warrent this except for to educate ourselves enough to get what our son needed. Education, education, education this was our only defense. It worked for both sides.

Prayer, and the realization that God truely is on our side. Remembering that these kids have been kissed on the forehead by God otherwise they wouldn't be here and that God trusted us enough as parents that he allowed us to participate in ensuring their well being in every aspect. What a gift to know this. This is what I held onto during this very trying time.

As difficult as this disease is, I try to bare in mind that there are very few parents who can combat this type of ignorance and keep their kids and themselves in check. It takes a special person to raise a child with a special need. Congratulate yourselves for all that you do and know that God has entrusted you with his most precious gifts.

God Bless! I hope our story inspires you to never give up! It wasn't easy but we are finally there and you know what, the majority of school personal has changed their attitude toward all of us and this disease.

If you are currently experiencing difficulty within your childs school or day care please call 1-800-diabetes and ask for the school discrimination package. It's free and contains all that you need to know to ensure your childs safety and well being.

Tami

sammysmom
04-06-2007, 10:12 AM
I am soooo glad that you finally got the 504..looks like you fought long and hard. The sad part is that what you fought for, many districts in Michigan already have, including mine in Trenton. If the school district would have taken the time to find out how "not hard" it is to have a couple of trained personel, they could have save themselves a lot of time and money. You should be very proud of yourself, knowing that you have paved the way for Tyler and any other student with diabetes that may come into your district. Good job mom!!!

shannon

Tamara Gamble
04-06-2007, 11:15 AM
Shannon, I live quite a ways from you in a very rural area. I spoke with you on the phone before in fact I tried to get our school to contact yours for policy and procedure. Their response was that you have a larger district and can afford it. My response was that it doesn't need to cost you any money, I'd be happy to show you how. They didn't bite and pissed the teachers off trying to gain strength, it back fired on them and now have to pay for aides at each school.

Sad isn't it. But well worth the cost because now it's not just for Ty. It for all of the kids in our county with diabetes and all kids with any chronic disease in our school so I guess everything happens for a reason. I just wish it haden't been at my expense but I think other parents would have folded against the good old boys club so it was meant to happen this way.

Have you gotten the new pump yet? PM me so we can chat. I think I lost your number. Sorry. Had to much on my plate to keep track of everything.

Tami

Lindy
04-06-2007, 11:23 AM
WOW - you have really been thru a lot! Our son is 4 - since he's one of those summer b-days, we'll be doing another year of preschool and then on to the big show! I have already heard some very concerning issues with our school district. We are in more of a small town rural area. I have contacted a parent who is currently in our school district with a dd in the 5th grade, she asked me if I was going to homeschool. They are getting ready to pull her from school as they have had so many problems and she said the teachers have been unwilling to deal with diabetes - some of them unwilling to learn about it . I know none of this info first hand - yet. What she was telling me was that the Teacher's Union voted and the teacher's no longer have to deal with a diabetic child in the classroom - WHAT?? They sent her daughter, by herself with a BG at 40 to the health office... yikes!

I have made contact with a Type 1 family doc here in town, and the DE at our local hospital - each of which stated that the school here is not yet good at dealing with D.. So I have some ground work to do...

Any and all info regarding school's and the 504 is much appreciated!

WAY TO GO TAMI!!! :D

Kaylee's Mommy
04-06-2007, 12:18 PM
WOW Tami.. I'm so glad that you stuck to your guns and fought for your son's rights! you did a wonderful job.. I would ahve lost my cool a long time ago.. I've already spoken with Kaylee's school, even though she doesn't go for another year an a half. Jaylin goes next fall. I just have so much anxiety over it so when I called to start getting Jaylin registared I asked if they had any experience with type 1.. just so has it that there is one little girl there now, she's in 4th grade, so she won't be in that school when Kaylee is, but all the teachers are trained and now what they are doing.. i asked about a 504 plan and they said absolutely.. they don't have a nurse.. but as long as two people are trained then I'm OK with that.. and the best part is that its a very small school.. only about 12 kids in kindergarten so ifeel she won't be 'forgot' in the crowd:)

I'm so glad that you got whats right for your son and it looks as though you've paved a bath for others not just in the diabetes aspec but other areas as well.. congrats to you!

Kaylee's Mommy
04-06-2007, 12:24 PM
WOW - you have really been thru a lot! Our son is 4 - since he's one of those summer b-days, we'll be doing another year of preschool and then on to the big show! I have already heard some very concerning issues with our school district. We are in more of a small town rural area. I have contacted a parent who is currently in our school district with a dd in the 5th grade, she asked me if I was going to homeschool. They are getting ready to pull her from school as they have had so many problems and she said the teachers have been unwilling to deal with diabetes - some of them unwilling to learn about it . I know none of this info first hand - yet. What she was telling me was that the Teacher's Union voted and the teacher's no longer have to deal with a diabetic child in the classroom - WHAT?? They sent her daughter, by herself with a BG at 40 to the health office... yikes!

I have made contact with a Type 1 family doc here in town, and the DE at our local hospital - each of which stated that the school here is not yet good at dealing with D.. So I have some ground work to do...

Any and all info regarding school's and the 504 is much appreciated!

WAY TO GO TAMI!!! :D


I know a lot of people are having a hard time.. but what I don't get is, don't these teachers realize they DON'T have a choice? If they are teaching in a public school they do not have a choice, union or no union.. its against the law.. I'm so glad I live in the town/district that I do.. I've heard nothing but wonderful things so far.. we are in an extremely small close knit town..

good luck to you:)

Tamara Gamble
04-06-2007, 04:54 PM
Thank you for your support. Nicki, I don't know the laws in your state and would need some time to take a look but nothing can superceed federal law. They're getting trickier though so you have to look at all of the loop holes. Small towns are rough but not impossible. Maybe the other mom just doesn't know what to do. In the meantime contact the number I gave above and get all of the information so you can look it over. Right now is the time to educate yourself. Ty was sent down alone last year below 20 so I know the feeling. No more though. Send me a pm so that I can contact you with information when I get it.

God Bless!

Tami

MrsBadshoe
04-06-2007, 09:02 PM
Tami...we had a similar nightmare but with a private school so we had no legal leg to stand on....the idiot admistrator dug in his heels and woulnd't learn anything...Push came to shovel they kicked our kids out for the second time in 1 yr at the start of this school year..Lucky friends of ours on the Church board put up a fight this time..We now have a full time school nurse. She is wonderful....Not anything close to what I was demanding...but heck she is a god send I will take her over dealing with the idiots any day.

Illinifan
04-06-2007, 10:28 PM
Tami,

Congrats on hangin' on until you got what you needed.

We had a similiar issue with our middle school, but our school superintendent is a very wise man. It just takes his minions a while to get the clue.

What tipped the scales in our favor was when the attorney from the Ohio Legal Rights Office attended one of our 504 meetings. When she and the school's attorney greeted each other by name and asked about each other's kids, I knew we were going to be happy with the outcome.

The attorney told us that every state has a similiar office with the same services. You just have to figure out where it is in your state.

Good job, mom.

Brian

badshoe
04-06-2007, 11:16 PM
we had not done a thing to warrent this except for to educate ourselves enough to get what our son needed

Wow been there. You have my unabashed respect and admiration. I know how hard that was and can fill in a lot you left unsaid.

The biggest frustration we felt was when the school took the position that first they didn't need to be educated, then they came to think they needed a little education but they sure as hell were not going to be educated by anyone who knew jack about type one either.

badshoe
04-06-2007, 11:50 PM
OK this brings back a lot of bad memories. In the hope of saving someone else the same headache I am going to start a thread of resources to help arm parents for the school diabetes talk.


http://forums.childrenwithdiabetes.com/showthread.php?t=4374

Tamara Gamble
04-07-2007, 09:22 AM
Awesome work Bennet. Later I will work on finding the link to some important documents that I found useful as well. OCR hidden disabilities is perfect. Wrights law is pretty good although they recomend not filing when there is a problem. I don't know that I agree. I do agree you should do all that you can prior but I'm not against filing if need be. Also when you go into FAPE there are some great things in there to help clarify things for the less than educated administration who can't quite seem to comprehend what the other stuff says.

I think a great reminder is to always check out the national nurses association as well as your states to look for legislation and pending legislation. Teachers unions too. And of coarse any state laws that you may have.

Didn't mean to stir up bad memories for you but I like the way that you think. I'm a doer as well!

-Tami