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Tommo
02-05-2007, 02:42 PM
I am finding that it is near impossible to give milk and not get a big spike - does anyone else have this problem or do you avoid milk and give something else? my little boy (2yrs) still likes a bottle at bedtime which completely throws the night time management out the window...I don't really want to bring him down with novorapid as he gets very low in the mornings as it is...any thoughts would be welcome

...very pleased to have found this site!

Emmasmommy
02-05-2007, 02:45 PM
I use milk all the time for my 2 year old I use it to bring up the sugars with lows. Emma was on lantic and novrapid before pump and I found that the milk would thro her way up but that she needed that to get her thru the night. I used to find that it spiked her sugar but i dont notice it as much anymore i find it better then juice. If u are finding to much of a spike could u try eaither A giving a small amount ov Novrapid with the bottle or maybe even try and use water for bed time

Good luck

beckybuckley
02-05-2007, 02:53 PM
I'm not familiar with your insulin, but my 3 yr old is on the pump and she loves her milk. Doesn't seem to make her spike too much when she's drinking it with a meal but it does bring her up very quickly if that's what we use to correct a low and doesn't seem to crash back down to lows.

Mama2H
02-05-2007, 03:02 PM
We always use milk for night time lows. It does bring her up pretty fast but it also maintains her through the night. If I give juice I am back up 3 hours later treating the low again where milk puts her perfect at wake up.

Colinsmom
02-05-2007, 03:27 PM
We found a milk called "carb countdown" right with the reguilar milk. It has 4 carbs per 8 OZ- they also make it in chololate for I think 6 carbs. Colin loves it and I think it tastes pretty darn good. You might want to see if you can find it in your area.

MamaC
02-05-2007, 03:33 PM
We use a glass of milk (2%) for any pre-bed reading under his target bedtime range (120-180). Actually, we have a scale that we created depending on how far below that range he is, milk or milk combined with a snack of varying sizes. If he's under 140, we usually send him off with a glass at bedtime. Gets him through the night.

Becky

Adinsmom
02-05-2007, 03:53 PM
I think milk pushed us over the edge on deciding to go with the pump.

The kids were surprised the night before our endo appointment with room service glasses of milk and cookies at the hotel. :eek: It was very thoughtful. I try to think of Adin as child who happens to have diabetes. We wouldn't tell him no, but in our current situation with out any carb ratios I can't just give a shot to cover food. It broke my heart that a simple good thing such as milk would cause angst. :( So we went with the spirit of the surprise and gave him the milk even though dh and I did exchange looks and knowing we would be up all night with checks, etc.

He could have cared less for the cookie but was just grinning up at me with the cup of milk. :cwds: He thought it was so cool.

hartpukas
02-05-2007, 04:03 PM
My 2 1/2 year old LOVES milk. Initially, we were frustrated with the milk spikes b/c their precious bones need the milk. So, I tried "watering" down her milk - I thought I was a genius until she starting catching on and demanded, "no wata in it".

Now, I have graduated to realize that Calorie Countdown Milk by Hood http://www.hphood.com/products/prodList.aspx?id=575 is my dear friend. When she is "lower" I use regular full fat milk. When she is too high for regular milk I use the Calorie Countdown - granted I sometimes see an increase (if she drinks too much of the Hood milk) however it is nothing compared to what regular milk does.

p.s. ~ Our refrigerator looks crazy with a carton of Whole Milk (for my daughter), a carton of 2% milk (for me and hubby who prefer to watch the fat) and then the Calorie Countdown (for higher times). :rolleyes:

A&Ds Mommy
02-05-2007, 04:35 PM
Dylan drinks 2% milk with every meal and snack and then gets chocolate milk made with carnation instant breakfast and whole milk as part of his bedtime snack.

Lately though he hasn't been wanting to drink his normal amounts.; exept at bedtime when it is chocolate :)

mmc51264
02-05-2007, 07:45 PM
Zach is SOOO weird! He gets milk at night to keep him from crashing, but the very same milk in the morning spikes him after breakfast. :confused:
We're getting ready to pump. Hope it helps.

3jennifer
02-05-2007, 08:09 PM
My 15 yr old loves milk, he can go through about a gallon a day sometimes. It seems like I am always buying milk at the store. We have never experienced problems with spikes in milk. He drinks 1% milk.

EmmasMom
02-05-2007, 08:36 PM
We see a pretty big spike from milk, but not more of a spike than other carbs. All carbs cause a pretty huge spike in her if they're not closely matched with insulin.

At dx's she was still pretty much living on milk, (and on NPH... ugh) so we just had to deal with constant highs. On the pump it's not a problem.:)

Momof4gr8kids
02-05-2007, 09:16 PM
Since people with diabetes tend to have more cavities I'd suggest trying out the water. If that is a no go, maybe try deluting the bedtime bottle with water.

Since kids need the fat and carbs, and calories, and calcium I wouldn't take milk away all together. You may want to match it with a little more insulin to handle the spike you are seeing. Jamie

Emma'sDad
02-06-2007, 01:22 PM
Maybe this goes with the pepperoni discussion where the fat in milk becomes a factor. We usually give a glass of 125ml of 1% milk to Emma. Multiply how many glasses she drinks by 6g and inject accordingly and we never have any problems.