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Beach bum
02-03-2009, 08:56 AM
Another role model down the drain. I hope he learns from his mistakes and uses this opprotunity to inform kids that his choices aren't neccessarily the best choices. He definitely needs some guidance in the substance dept. First a dui, now this.


BOSTON -- Michael Phelps is unbeatable in the water. It's on dry land where he runs into trouble.

Phelps has embarrassed himself again after a triumphant Olympics, this time getting his picture snapped as he inhaled from a marijuana pipe. The photo wound up in a British tabloid Sunday, forcing Phelps to publicly apologize and his handlers to deal with sponsors who are surely none too pleased about the swimmer's choices away from the pool.

"I engaged in behavior which was regrettable and demonstrated bad judgment," Phelps said in the statement released by one of his agents. "I'm 23 years old and despite the successes I've had in the pool, I acted in a youthful and inappropriate way, not in a manner people have come to expect from me. For this, I am sorry. I promise my fans and the public it will not happen again."

It all sounded so familiar, with good reason. After the 2004 Athens Games, an underage Phelps was arrested for drunken driving, pleaded guilty and apologized to his fans, saying he wouldn't make the same mistake again.

This was different, to be sure, but it could have the same damaging impact on Phelps' image and reputation, which were riding high after he won a record eight gold medals at the Beijing Games.

"Michael is a role model, and he is well aware of the responsibilities and accountability that come with setting a positive example for others, particularly young people," the U.S. Olympic Committee said in a statement. "In this instance, regrettably, he failed to fulfill those responsibilities."

News of the World said the picture was taken during a November house party while Phelps was visiting the University of South Carolina. During that trip, he attended one of the school's football games and received a big ovation when introduced to the crowd.

Phelps and his advisers did not dispute the authenticity of the photo.

The party occurred nearly three months after the Olympics while Phelps was taking a long break from training, and his actions should have no impact on the eight golds he won at Beijing. He has never tested positive for banned substances, and this case doesn't fall under any doping rules.

Phelps' main sanctions most likely will be financial -- perhaps doled out by embarrassed sponsors who could reconsider their dealings with a swimmer who hopes to earn $100 million in endorsements.

Phelps was in Tampa, Fla., during Super Bowl week to make promotional appearances on behalf of a sponsor. But he left the city before Sunday's game between the Pittsburgh Steelers and Arizona Cardinals, abandoning his original plan to be at Raymond James Stadium.

USA Swimming said its Olympic champions are "looked up to by people of all ages, especially young athletes who have their own aspirations and dreams."

"That said," the governing body added in a statement, "we realize that none among us is perfect. We hope that Michael can learn from this incident and move forward in a positive way."

Phelps was part of a group of elite athletes who agreed to take part in a pilot testing program designed to increase the accuracy of doping tests. His spot in the program could be at risk, said Travis Tygart, head of the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency.

"For one of the Olympics' biggest heroes it's disappointing, and we'll evaluate whether he remains in that program," Tygart said. "But some good education comes from this because he's going to suffer some penalties."

Marijuana is viewed differently from performance-enhancing drugs, according to David Howman, executive director of the World Anti-Doping Agency. An athlete is subject to WADA sanctions only for a positive test that occurs during competition periods.

"We don't have any jurisdiction," Howman said. "It's not banned out of competition. It's only if you test positive in competition."

Phelps returned to the pool a couple of weeks ago to begin preparations for this summer's world championships in Rome. He plans to take part in his first post-Olympics meet in early March, a Grand Prix event in Austin, Texas.

His longtime coach, Bob Bowman, did not respond to phone and e-mail messages. Instead, he issued a terse statement through Phelps' agent.

"He regrets his behavior, and I'm sure he'll learn from this experience," the coach said. "I'm glad to have him back in training."

In his book "No Limits: The Will to Succeed," Phelps recounted the embarrassment of his DUI arrest in 2004, a couple of months after winning six gold and two bronze medals in Athens. His mother, Debbie Phelps, cried when she heard the news.

"That hurt worse, maybe, than anything," Phelps wrote. "I had never seen my mother that upset."

Olympic teammate Dara Torres said Phelps has become such a prominent figure that everything he does is news.

However, she said: "This in no way, shape or form diminishes anything he's done."

"It's sort of a double-edged sword," Torres told the AP on Sunday. "When you're recognizable, you're looked up to as a role model. He is recognizable and everything you do gets looked at and picked apart. I guess that's the price of winning 14 Olympic (gold) medals."

Jason Lezak, whose remarkable anchor leg of the 400-meter freestyle relay helped Phelps stay on course to break Spitz's record, said he was "saddened" to hear of the report.

"While I don't condone his conduct, I am a teammate and fan," Lezak said in a text message to the AP. "Unlike many fair-weather people, I am sticking by him. If my wife and I can help him in any way, we will. I believe he will grow from this and be a better person, role model and teammate."

During the 1998 Nagano Olympics, Canadian snowboarder Ross Rebagliati was stripped of his gold medal in the giant slalom after testing positive for marijuana. The victory was reinstated because the sport's governing body did not have a rule banning the substance.

Later that year, Olympic swimmer Gary Hall Jr. drew a three-month suspension after testing positive for pot.

"It's one of those substances that every year there's debate over it," said Howman, the WADA official.

Copyright 2009 by The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published

Karenwith4
02-03-2009, 09:43 AM
It's too bad, but not entirely unexpected unfortunately.

I think as parents we need to be careful about who we hold out as role models for our kids. There are so many incredible, inspiring young (and old) people who are true role models, making the world a better place or overcoming real adversity - and those are the people I want my kids to admire. I think it is a shame that the media often tries to dictate who role models for our kids should be - often for media's own gain - and those media stars rarely sucessfully navigate the spotlight. Phelps at very least gives us another high profile example about making good choices. :cwds:

Karen

Lee
02-03-2009, 10:08 AM
I here you - he really seemed to be a squeaky clean American hero - with that said, I wouldn't tell my kids about it...

Kaylee's Mom
02-03-2009, 10:23 AM
I was bummed since I certainly cannot hide the story from my 14 year old and to me it tells kids you can be successful and a pot head :(

Crystal

jendean
02-03-2009, 10:32 AM
I have always told my kids that along with fame comes a lot of tendency to do bad things.
But I also believe that a kid can take a role model away from thier actions, separate the two, and take what they like, and throw away what they dont. I teach my kids that while everyone makes mistakes, we are also all redeemable. To just abandon a role model because they did something "bad" teaches kids that if they make poor choices that they too, will be abandoned.
I would just talk to my kids frankly about it if one of thier role models were in this situation. I would tell them that I was concerned about that person, and hoped that they did not get too sucked into that type of world, and that I hoped they had a good support system.
I would also take the opportunity to point out to my kids that they DO have a good support system and that they should talk to me if they ever thought about doing that stuff.

Kaileen
02-03-2009, 11:23 AM
We are the best role models a child can have: not a sports figure, pop star, movie star or anyone else. People in the sports/entertainment industry should never be put up on a pedestal like that, except to prove that all people make bad judgements at one time or another.

He's a swimmer. He won eight gold medals. He's also human.

Mimi
02-03-2009, 11:38 AM
The media manufacturers these young people as role models. Marketing geniuses use them to sell products that appeal to young people. They are put on a pedestal so high, and then the same media that put them there does all it can to catch that one moment that will bring them crashing down.

I don't agree with what he did, but imho, his bigger mistake was forgetting the digital age we live in. Practically everyone has a cell phone with a camera on it.

Beach bum
02-03-2009, 11:52 AM
It just is too bad because he is a role model of what you can achieve if you put your mind to it. He's human, he definitely made a mistake and pp is right, he's got to remeber how fast his actions can be recorded on film.

MamaC
02-03-2009, 11:59 AM
Phelps is an amazing athlete and I enjoyed his Olympic achievements probably more than the average fan. BUT - he is just an athlete and hasn't earned the status of role model. Athletic model, yes. Role model not so much. While it's good that he has admitted to being the mystery man in the photo (where was THAT mystery?), he needs to learn to avoid those situations.

Phelps' handlers have apparently dropped the ball. They forget that they are dealing with a very young man who has spent very little time out of the pool in the last eight years. Seems that every time he takes a break, the temptations of the real world prove too much for him to decline.

He was pretty much given a pass on the DUI, seemingly learning nothing from the experience. There is nowhere he can go without SOMEONE getting a picture of him. If his handlers, and he needs them, let him out of their sight, you can bet he is going to take the opportunity to live a "normal" life, if only for an hour.

He basically a big goofy kid who managed to miss his late teen years and the experiences they impart. He is ultimately responsible for his actions but he may not GET that yet. I heartily encourage Mother Phelps to administer a sharp slap or three upside his head (assuming he has the stones to slink his skinny butt back towards Baltimore anytime soon). She's taught him a lot about life. It's time for him to start walking the walk.

hawkeyegirl
02-03-2009, 12:46 PM
Frankly, I always thought Michael Phelps was sort of a tool.

Kaylee's Mommy
02-03-2009, 01:03 PM
I like Michael Phelps.. He's an amazing swimmer.. he's also a young adult in the spotlight.. unfortunately everything he does people look at.. I'm not saying what he did was right, not by any means, but there are people out there who do a lot worse, celebrities and not, that don't have this put in the spotlight.. It could have been a lot worse.. I personally and glad that is was 'only' pot.. and not that he's in jail for sexual assault, cocaine or heroin.. Hopefully he's learned his lesson.. I guarantee that almost every young adult has smoked pot (doesn't mean they do it all the time, or move onto the 'big stuff'.. ) but at some point in almost every teenages/young adult's life, they try it.. He got caught and I hope he learned his lesson..

Charliesmom
02-03-2009, 01:13 PM
He is a great swimmer but he is also a young man. Young people do stupid things. He unfortunately has the world watching him. I don't really see olympic athletes as role models though. Everyone does stupid stuff, it's how they handle the consequences of the stupid stuff that shows a persons true character.

badshoe
02-03-2009, 05:28 PM
Like Charles Barkley said athletes shouldn't be roll models (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Barkley#Role_model_controversy).

ScottB
02-03-2009, 05:46 PM
I wouldn't give up on Phelps just yet in regards to a role model. I don't condone what he did in any way but if his actions proved anything, it proved he's human. I can assure you that I lost my fair share of brain cells from the dumb things I did when I was his age and I learned my lesson well so hopefully he'll learn a lesson too. If he continues to spiral down then I'll reconsider my opinion of him.

MamaC
02-03-2009, 11:58 PM
Now the sheriff in SC wants to arrest him.

kyleesmom
02-04-2009, 12:28 AM
Personally, and trust me Ive already caught a lot of flack for my opionion, I dont really think it matters. Ive know plenty of 23 year olds(and younger and probably a few older) who smoked pot and turned into perfectly normal, functioning members of society. Many of them now have children and I would never consider that their children, and in some cases mine, should not look up to them as role models. Yes he accomplished some amazing athletic feats and Im sure many children want to grow up to be like him, but he is just a man and I seriously doubt any kid is going to go out and get high because Michael Phelps did. I dont condone what he did, but I dont think he should be destroyed because of it either. Hes a 23 year old kid who has spent much of his life involved in rigorous training and he was bound to let loose at some point. He attended a college party, where many of the others in attendence were likely doing the same thing he was doing. Again, Im not saying I think its ok, I just think that its not the worst thing in the world. Not to say that if I ever find out my kids use drugs, I wont be upset, disappointed and angry, but I wont lose faith in them. Just my opinion.

hawkeyegirl
02-04-2009, 11:17 AM
I don't think smoking pot is a hangable offense either. I've just never been particularly impressed with Michael Phelps as a person. He seems incapable of stringing more then 3 words together, and when he does, appears to mumble mostly about Playstation and cheeseburgers.

I think he's a kid with extraordinary talent, and I believe he's worked hard to get where he is. I also think he has an enormous ego and makes stupid decisions because he believes that he can get away with it because he's Michael Phelps.

frizzyrazzy
02-04-2009, 03:41 PM
Personally, and trust me Ive already caught a lot of flack for my opionion, I dont really think it matters. Ive know plenty of 23 year olds(and younger and probably a few older) who smoked pot and turned into perfectly normal, functioning members of society. Many of them now have children and I would never consider that their children, and in some cases mine, should not look up to them as role models. Yes he accomplished some amazing athletic feats and Im sure many children want to grow up to be like him, but he is just a man and I seriously doubt any kid is going to go out and get high because Michael Phelps did. I dont condone what he did, but I dont think he should be destroyed because of it either. Hes a 23 year old kid who has spent much of his life involved in rigorous training and he was bound to let loose at some point. He attended a college party, where many of the others in attendence were likely doing the same thing he was doing. Again, Im not saying I think its ok, I just think that its not the worst thing in the world. Not to say that if I ever find out my kids use drugs, I wont be upset, disappointed and angry, but I wont lose faith in them. Just my opinion.

Thank you Jill. I was trying to come up with the right way to say exactly what you said. So I'll just say "ditto".

StillMamamia
02-04-2009, 04:26 PM
Thank you Jill. I was trying to come up with the right way to say exactly what you said. So I'll just say "ditto".

Make that double ditto.

Over here the usual tendency is not mix oranges with apples:rolleyes:
His athletic abilites are amazing, there is no denying this.
His personal choices are his and so are the consequences, both personal and professionally.
As for being a role-model, that depends on which view you have of him - as an athlete or as a normal everyday person.

grantsmom
02-04-2009, 09:50 PM
I agree that athletes and movie stars should not be considered role models just because of their athletic abilites.

I used this as a "teachable moment" for my son. He made a mistake and now because of his fame the whole world knows.

lil'Man'sMom
02-05-2009, 12:06 AM
I really didn't want to post but feel compelled to do so. The day before Michael Phelps was caught on tape, my DH found a glass pipe amongst my DS things. This is a boy who we would never suspect...while he is not a 8 time medal winner, he is a good kid. To say I was disappointed would be an understatement. I was devastated but after I wrapped my head around it and had a lengthy talk with my DS about consequences and better choices, I feel confident that he is not a delinquent drug addicted pot head. This was a stumble in the path of life and he will get up dust himself off and continue on with the great things that he is capable of, as most of us have and as Michael Phelps will.

As for prosecution, I don't want my son prosecuted because his Dad found his pipe. Fortunately nobody snapped a picture.