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zimbie45
12-11-2006, 08:10 PM
ok so I have emailed animas to see if they are working on any type of CGM? That was simply my question.. Never did i ask them, nor did I ever ask them to compare to any other companys imperticular so this was my responce i got....

IT seem most interesting, I guess they assumed i wanted to compair against medtronic's ? NOt sure why, but ok...



Hi Chandra,

I am responding to your inquiry on our website regarding an insulin pump that is similar to the Medtronic Paradigm pump. I am unable to provide you with an exact timeframe when Animas will be releasing a continuous monitoring system that works with our insulin pump. Animas has also been acquired by Johnson and Johnson and is a part of the Lifescan family. Lifescan is the US leader in blood glucose monitoring and has been working on their own continuous sensor for many years.

It is important to understand the technology that is currently available on the market today. The Medtronic Minimed pump does not monitor blood sugars AND deliver insulin automatically. There is no device available currently that combines blood glucose monitoring and automatic insulin delivery. The continuous glucose monitoring systems that are approved by the FDA all use interstitial fluid, not whole blood. Therefore, the result is about 10-20 minutes behind what your finger stick result will be. So what that means is that you cannot use this result to give insulin. What the systems do provide is a great means of alerting patients when they are trending down to a low or up to high blood sugar, so that they can take action to prevent the lows or highs.

The good news is this technology is being worked on by over 30 companies. (Google continuous glucose monitoring and see all the results!) There is a chart on www.childrenwithdiabetes.com or www.diabetes123.com website that details all of the systems available, including Medtronics Paradigm system.

The continuous glucose monitoring technology that is available today is elementary. If you are looking into insulin pump therapy you should make the determination on what technology is available today that will work best for you.

Please let me know if you have any other questions.

rickst29
12-12-2006, 04:46 AM
that sounds just like an INSURANCE COMPANY trying to deny coverage.

Either The Animas Marketing Author really has NO CLUE how we use these things, OR the Author is working like a lawyer with a guilty client, throwing out all kinds of garbage to hope that something sticks. (Distorting facts and inventing stories for money, because it's their job to do that when they've got NOTHING ELSE to work with.)

Hmmm. If my CMGS says 180 or even 200 and it shows my bG going *UP*, and I've got no insulin on board, Animas says that being "10-20 minutes behind" makes it impossible to use for a "correction" insulin decision?

That's absolutely, totally wrong. :mad:

Have you seen the excellent movie now on Video, "Thank you for Smoking" ? This is just like the stuff the fictional lobbyists in the movie would write for their Alcohol/Tobacco/Firearms corporate masters.

rickst29
12-12-2006, 04:59 AM
Um, yeah. I've got one:

How much did you get paid to write this stuff ???

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Anyway, all that pressure to make your pump determination based "on what technology is available today" isn't about fear of Minimed: It's about Abbott working with Deltec, which could be approved and released in weeks, or maybe even a matter of days. The Cozmo is a pretty good pump, and the Navigator is said to be really accurate and reliable.

If you think Abbott and Deltec aren't doing this, Google "cozmonitor" and think harder. I think they've probably already finished, and they're just waiting on the FDA-- though no one has told me anything.

rmccully2000
12-12-2006, 10:26 AM
Um, yeah. I've got one:


Anyway, all that pressure to make your pump determination based "on what technology is available today" isn't about fear of Minimed: It's about Abbott working with Deltec, which could be approved and released in weeks, or maybe even a matter of days. The Cozmo is a pretty good pump, and the Navigator is said to be really accurate and reliable.

If you think Abbott and Deltec aren't doing this, Google "cozmonitor" and think harder. I think they've probably already finished, and they're just waiting on the FDA-- though no one has told me anything.

Plus I'm pretty sure that Omnipod will also combine with the Navigator. So that will make Animas and the new Spirit the only ones without the option of CGMS.

Dexcom and Minimed already have second generation products before the FDA and Navigator is supposed to be high quality out of the box. If Animas can't get their CGMS approved in the next year, they will have alot of work trying to catch up.

Rumors of either Roche or J&J buying Dexcom to combine with their product have been floating around.
Becky

zimbie45
12-13-2006, 08:46 AM
ok so based off there responce i re emailed them and this my letter and there email.... then below that i also emailed lifescan , and this is ther responce...
Chandra,

Yes, Animas is working on several prototypes for continuous glucose monitors. I do not have any details as to how it will work or when it will be available. Please let me know if you have any questions.

Lisa Reinwald
-----Original Message-----
From: Chandra
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 4:05 PM
To: Reinwald, Lisa [ANMUS]
Subject: RE: ANIMAS CORPORATION- CONTINUOS GLUCOSE MONITOR


Thank you for the responce.. My concern is not are you making something like the medtronic's.. It was simply is animas going to get in the market adn also make one since i have not heard anything on it.. I am vary familiar with childrenwithdiabetes.com and i have seen all the charts of comparison's and know people who are currently using many of the diffrent ones out there. I simply wanted to know IS ANIMAS, So I must assume by your responce that it is NO, animas is not, but it counter part lifescan is currently working on one.. Am i correct in my understanding of your responce?



Chandra
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