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ecs1516
11-03-2008, 03:06 PM
What batteries do you use in the Navigator receiver? I usually use Energizer Titanium. I talked to Energizer and they are discontinuing them. The Navigator manual says to use Max or Titanium. Nothing about Lithium. Energizer said that they were replacing Titanium with Lithium.

moco89
11-04-2008, 02:37 AM
In my opinion, batteries are batteries. They definitely will not harm the Navigator, but they will affect performance of the device.

Duracells are lower quality than Energizers and are therefore less reliable. They do not hold a consistent charge.

But, I am considering rechargeable batteries, but only by using certain, high quality devices to recharge. You have to be careful using rechargables because the charge can be inconsistent if you do not use good rechargers. With disposable batteries, I have seen the navigator go haywire which caused the device to throw out wacky dropping numbers on an almost dead battery.

Not only will rechargables be cheaper over time, but it will be a way to conserve. I will be asking for them for Christmas!

Please see this, if you are interested http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/001078.html

"The calculation of cost for nickel hydride batteries in the table is for 100 recharges. Hawk says the industry knows that nickel hydride batteries can easily last through 500 recharges. I've seen data indicating that 1,000 charges are possible. This drops the cost per 10,000 pictures to 70 cents! I'm convinced that the industry doesn't want people to know about these batteries. I seriously doubt you'll be seeing them on a rack in the grocery store anytime soon. Do the math: It's like buying 1,000 alkaline batteries for less than 10 bucks. Imagine what this does to the lucrative disposable-battery business. "

BTW: I would never put rechargables in a pump. Ever. It is not worth the risk, even if it is close to none. Pumps are a whole different ball game.

ecs1516
11-04-2008, 08:47 AM
Hmmm, I use rechargeable for things like the Wii. But, I have noticed after a while they just don't hold a charge anymore. I also haven't seen AAA rechargeables . Just AA or other sizes. Who makes AAA rechargeables?
The problem with the longer life batteries is that the pump or possibly Navigator doesn't know how to read the battery life left. That is why on the new Animas 2020 or ping , I believe you tell it what kind of battery you are using so it will calculate the remaining battery life correctly.

moco89
11-04-2008, 07:52 PM
Hmmm, I use rechargeable for things like the Wii. But, I have noticed after a while they just don't hold a charge anymore.


Almost all chargers that are bundled with rechargeable batteries are "junk".Most rechargables discharge at a rediculously fast rate because of this. However, there are plenty, plenty, of exceptions. You could do some research but the three examples on the page I linked are good. If you read the article, you will understand why many of these rechargables suck. Please read the article.

The Sanyo Eneloop is good and it comes in AAA. It is reliable. I have seen them at Fry's electronics, but I would call first. http://www.amazon.com/Sanyo-Eneloop-Pre-Charged-Rechargeable-Batteries/dp/B000IV2YLY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1225844531&sr=8-2

You also have to use high quality chargers to ensure that the battery holds a consistent and reliable charge, but this is still cheaper than buying a bunch of batteries all the time. The charger on the page I linked is one of the best ones out there. It is compatible with and charges both AA and AAA batteries. This one, but you may be able to find it cheaper than this. http://www.amazon.com/Crosse-Technology-BC-900-AlphaPower-Battery/dp/B00077AA5Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=garden&qid=1225844264&sr=1-1

The rechargeables, with the right batteries and charging devices, should last as long as a titanium battery.

ecs1516
11-05-2008, 09:11 AM
I researched a long time on the internet before I bought my charger for my Canon Rebel. I bought the Powerex MH-C204W from Maha energy in Ca. I works great compared to the energizer rechargers. The Maha one has a setting to finish draining the batteries before the recharge and also to do a trickle charge. I have found the powerex batteries to last longer than the energizer. Even saying that, after a year or so the battery does not hold a charge.

moco89
11-05-2008, 09:05 PM
I went to the Powerex website, and the batteries that I saw under the Maha category were too high capacity, which causes them to lose efficiency over time. This would explain why this would of happened to you in a year's time.

I would be weary of any AA > 2000 mAH capacity or any AAA >800 mAH because over time, the discharge rate becomes rediculous. The only exception is if they are specifically "hybrid" like certain Rayovacs, http://www.amazon.com/Rayovac-Hybrid-Battery-AAA-NiMH/dp/B000LPVIDW/ref=pd_bxgy_e_text_b http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000LPTDQQ/codinghorror-20.

Many rechargeables that are on the market are very high capacity, but they are not efficient dischargers. This causes a ton of problems. Capacity is not as important as the discharge rate of the batteries, believe it or not.

The sanyo eneloop batteries and the Rayovac Hybrids AA (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000LPTDQQ/codinghorror-20) and are reliable.

Mama Belle
11-06-2008, 02:34 AM
What batteries do you use in the Navigator receiver?

The thin round kind that say "AAA". :p

Whatever we have. Plain ol' alkaline batteries (Duracel or Energizer).