Carbs is cooked chicken/meat/fish

[payam7777777]

We're experiencing high BGs 3+ hours after eating fish/chicken/mean for which we didnt bolus. We were under the [wrong?] impression that 'a deck of cards' sized meat/fish/chicken is unimportant. Now, is it?

[selketine]

I think really fatty meat could raise the bgl. Was that all that was eaten?

It could have been just "one of those things" - you got a higher reading than expected for some other reason than eating meat. Perhaps caused by something eaten earlier in the day or oncoming illness, etc.

We don't bolus for meat as long as it is not breaded, etc. (like chicken nuggets).

[MrsBadshoe]

How high is high? I would consider something in the 200 range would be due to other factors other then just the food they ate; like mood. If you are talking 200 or under I think it could be due to factors you are unable to measure. I think meats don't have measureable carbs that would effect BS.

[Chase's mom]

I never dose for any kinda meat, Haven't had an issue YET.I also don't dose him for anything under 5 carbs.

[lilituc]

A very large portion of protein (probably not the amount a child would eat) can cause a spike, but something like 12 hours later.

[payam7777777]

How high is high?.

240s


i'll upload the graph if i can.

[cydnimom]

Did you cook the meat in anything? and what else was eaten in conjuntion with it? At what point in time after eating and injecting did you test?

Protein like fat can affect your blood sugar in combination with whatever else was eaten. It also slows down the absorption of carbs, so you may find that he will run lower to start with, but find that once the carbs do hit his system that they come in full blast and the insulin has already started wearing off. So basically not considered a carb when determining doseage of insulin, but could effect how you may want to split up the doseage (if at all).

Not sure what your situation is?

[payam7777777]

Did you cook the meat in anything? and what else was eaten in conjuntion with it? At what point in time after eating and injecting did you test?

Protein like fat can affect your blood sugar in combination with whatever else was eaten. It also slows down the absorption of carbs, so you may find that he will run lower to start with, but find that once the carbs do hit his system that they come in full blast and the insulin has already started wearing off. So basically not considered a carb when determining doseage of insulin, but could effect how you may want to split up the doseage (if at all).

Not sure what your situation is?


The meat... was not cooked. it was 'kabaab' ed. And did have some fat it it. The elevated BGs showed up ~3+ hours later. Very stubborn so much so that we're now suspecting a bad/small background basal as the culprit.
Your explnation is quite good. I's especially interested in the good explanation of the fact that insulin 'wears off' after a while and then the 'carb time bomb' explodes.

Thanks.

[zimbie45]

ok so the meat was not cooked, but kababed.. did you put any sauces or marinated it, in any way???? meat by it self has little to no carbs at all, but if you put anything on it, or dip it you have to count that... specially things like bbq sauce's or many diffrent marinades...

hope this helps

[selketine]

William sometimes has kabobs (beef usually) at a local persian restaurant and we don't see problems. He'll eat 3-4 pieces of meat depending on the size of the cut.

[pookas]

Could it be that the basal for that time of day needs to be changed? Check w/ endo. We are doing a carb fast tomorrow morning to see if Hunter's am BG is shooting up from not enough carb coverage for breakfast or basal needs to be changed. He's gonna have ham and cheese rolls ups for breakfast, then he can have carbs after I check him at 10am.

[Barry]

I believe the important thing to remember here is meats do not cause higher BGs...carbs do.

Meats, especially fatty ones, slow the abosorbtion rate of carbs, sometimes to the point where the rapid/bolus is gone by the time carbs hit, so when they hit, they stay

[payam7777777]

He's gonna have ham and cheese rolls ups for breakfast, then he can have carbs after I check him at 10am.

But cheese has carbs in it, doesnt it? Roughly 2 carbs in 100gr

[payam7777777]

so when they hit, they stay

Good explanation.