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payam7777777
11-22-2006, 08:35 AM
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CocaCola Lite cans... nutritional facts say:

Carbohydrates: 0.0 gr

Am i missing something?
Have you ever tried one?

Do you happen to know any other 0.0 carb thing? Except for water/etc.

allisa
11-22-2006, 09:17 AM
I know you are from a very different neck of the woods.....but don't you have diet sodas ? We would be LOST without our diet sodas.....taste is differnt than rgular....but you get used to it.....my son can't stand REGULAR soda because he is so used to the diet.....

payam7777777
11-22-2006, 09:53 AM
I know you are from a very different neck of the woods.....but don't you have diet sodas ? We would be LOST without our diet sodas.....taste is differnt than rgular....but you get used to it.....my son can't stand REGULAR soda because he is so used to the diet.....

There are a couple diet sodas here but since there's no reliable su[ervision on them, we dont dare to trust the nutritional fact label as far as it is 'made in iran'

So you mean ColcaCola Lite is really 0.0 carbs?

CarrieP
11-22-2006, 10:20 AM
Yep...It's called Diet Coke here and we live on it!!!

CarrieP

Deannas mom
11-22-2006, 10:30 AM
Here here!! we would never last without our diet soda We love Diet Coke we drank it even before Diabeties was a part of our lives.. 0 carb 0 sugar

Twinklet
11-22-2006, 10:36 AM
We drink 0 carb Coca Cola products all the time in this house! :D It is true, no carbs! A wonderful creation! And tastes pretty good, too!

Diet Coke (called Coca Cola Lite in your country?) and Coca Cola Zero are both carb-free.

Emma'sDad
11-22-2006, 10:42 AM
Somebody failed to mention that it's made with Aspertame... Which is believed to cause cancer. But I've been drinking Diet Coke for 20 years now.. Have tried different kinds that they came out with... There are some that are made with Splenda, but after 20 years of Diet Coke, it's hard to switch over.

thebestnest5
11-22-2006, 12:11 PM
Somebody failed to mention that it's made with Aspertame... Which is believed to cause cancer. But I've been drinking Diet Coke for 20 years now.. Have tried different kinds that they came out with... There are some that are made with Splenda, but after 20 years of Diet Coke, it's hard to switch over.

I have read that aspartame has never been proven to cause cancer. Saccharin, however, carries a warning label for consumers.

Mom2Madi
11-22-2006, 01:21 PM
We've just come back from 5 years in Europe and all those "lite" soft drinks are the same as the diet sodas here in the U.S. When I was in Denmark they had a no carb kid's drink called "Fun" in a liquid bottle that you mix with so many parts water. Here in the U.S. we have many powdered drink mixes that you put in water that are no carb also and we have "lite" juices that do have carbs but not that many (the stuff my daughter likes has 4 carbs in 8 oz) and we have flavored waters. Unfortunately I know your choices are limited over there - we left Europe 3 mths after my daughter was dx because I found it hard to read food labels there and had limited choices for foods - although I know you eat much healthier there. I've read many of your posts - you are an incredibly caring aunt and your little nephew is so lucky to have you.

Jo

selketine
11-22-2006, 01:29 PM
Lots of flavors of diet drinks here too - we really like the Diet Rite sodas that come in white grape, orange, and some other good flavors (peach?).

lilituc
11-22-2006, 01:47 PM
Payam, if you don't believe they are truly sugar-free, you can test them with Diastix (this gives a visual indicator) or even with a test strip on your bg meter. On mine something with no sugar at all shows up as an error message.

payam7777777
11-22-2006, 02:09 PM
Great!
Thanks you all.
So we DO have a 0.0 carb thing.
Anything else?

madde
11-22-2006, 02:24 PM
Payam,

I don't know if you have Crystal Light or not, but it comes in alot of different flavors and is 0 carbs and great tasting.

Emma'sDad
11-22-2006, 02:30 PM
yeah, Emma loves crystal light. We have a good supply of crystal light and nestle singles in her D-bag with different flavours. It's great for restaurants when all they have is diet sodas, so we get her a water and magically she gets juice that we don't have to count carbs on. Highly recommend it.

Ellen
11-22-2006, 06:08 PM
I held out as long as possible without giving my son any sugar free products. We used seltzer (carbonated water) with splashes of pure fresh juices or we used herbal teas that were primarily hibiscus without any sweetener for many years. Once he became a teen and others were drinking soda around him, he had diet soda when bg was high. Anyone else here hate artificial sweeteners? I do. I know it's a personal choice.

thebestnest5
11-22-2006, 06:38 PM
Anyone else here hate artificial sweeteners? I do. I know it's a personal choice.

I used to shun artificial sweeteners. But, I have relaxed quite a lot. We do use artificial sweeteners and I don't worry or stress about it. If you put sugar, I mean any sugar (fructose, glucose...), under the intense scrutiny that artificial sweeteners get, you wouldn't even want to go near sugar. As a society we have come to accept these risks as "normal". I point this out, not to villianize sugar, but to put scrutiny into a difference perspective. My kids consume both sugar and artificial sweeteners. Neither of these would I consider nutritious...but they do add to eating enjoyment.

Sugar could be blamed for: (just a short list, there's more)

dental problems
obesity (obesity, is a bigger killer than artificial sweeteners IMO)
cancer
yeast overgrowth
heart disease
dependency
weakening the immune system

"Overdosing on sugar. Eating or drinking 100 grams (8 tbsp.) of sugar, the equivalent of one 12-ounce can of soda, can reduce the ability of white blood cells to kill germs by forty percent. The immune-suppressing effect of sugar starts less than thirty minutes after ingestion and may last for five hours. In contrast, the ingestion of complex carbohydrates, or starches, has no effect on the immune system." from this website, http://www.askdrsears.com/html/4/t042500.asp


Just like with most things we consume, moderation is probably what's most important.

Ivan's Mum
11-22-2006, 08:30 PM
over her it's diet coke they alsodo coke zero, and sprite (lemonade) zero plus we have the good old soda streem where we can make our own fizzy diet drinks in any number of flavours. It really is a smorgasboard of diet drinks in this country. You might be able to find pepsi light too.

Been drinking diet coke for 20 years and confirm that it tastes different in eachcontry I've been to.

Drink up girlfriend, your life is about to change!

payam7777777
11-23-2006, 02:30 AM
Payam,

I don't know if you have Crystal Light or not, but it comes in alot of different flavors and is 0 carbs and great tasting.

Nope.
Thanks anyway.

payam7777777
11-23-2006, 02:33 AM
I held out as long as possible without giving my son any sugar free products. We used seltzer (carbonated water) with splashes of pure fresh juices or we used herbal teas that were primarily hibiscus without any sweetener for many years. Once he became a teen and others were drinking soda around him, he had diet soda when bg was high. Anyone else here hate artificial sweeteners? I do. I know it's a personal choice.

Here there is this Sweet'N Low. I havnt had enough time to evaluate it or read about it. What do you know about it? At first it seemed to be fine, but later their reply o my email said that each 1gram of SweetN Low contains 1 carbs!!

payam7777777
11-23-2006, 04:08 AM
http://www.diabeteshealth.com/media/pdfs/Sugar-Free-Food-Reference-Guide-1006.pdf

http://www.diabeteshealth.com/media/pdfs/Chocolate-Chart-02-06.pdf

Momof4gr8kids
11-23-2006, 04:15 AM
Payam, below is some info on different types of sweeteners you might be able to find. Also the web address I found the info in case you are interested in reading further.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_substitute

compounds used as sugar substitutes in the United States are saccharin (e.g. Sweet'N Low), aspartame (e.g. Equal, NutraSweet) and sucralose (e.g. Splenda). In many other countries cyclamate and the herbal sweetener stevia are used extensively.

[edit] Natural sugar substitutes

1. Brazzein — Protein, 800x sweetness of sucrose (by weight), Exxx
2. Curculin — Protein, 550x sweetness (by weight), Exxx
3. Erythritol — 0.7x sweetness (by weight), 14x sweetness of sucrose (by food energy), 0.05x energy density of sucrose
4. Fructose — 1.7x sweetness (by weight and food energy), 1.0x energy density of sucrose
5. Glycyrrhizin — 50x sweetness (by weight)
6. Glycerol — 0.6x sweetness (by weight), 0.55x sweetness (by food energy), 1.075x energy density, E422
7. Hydrogenated starch hydrolysates — 0.4x–0.9x sweetness (by weight), 0.5x–1.2x sweetness (by food energy), 0.75x energy density
8. Isomalt — 0.45x–0.65x sweetness (by weight), 0.9x–1.3x sweetness (by food energy), 0.5x energy density, E953
9. Lactitol — 0.4x sweetness (by weight), 0.8x sweetness (by food energy), 0.5x energy density, E966
10. Mabinlin — Protein, 100x sweetness (by weight), Exxx
11. Maltitol — 0.9x sweetness (by weight), 1.7x sweetness (by food energy), 0.525x energy density, E965
12. Mannitol — 0.5x sweetness (by weight), 1.2x sweetness (by food energy), 0.4x energy density, E421
13. Miraculin — Protein, nx sweetness (by weight), Exxx
14. Monellin — Protein, 3,000x sweetness (by weight), Exxx
15. Pentadin — Protein, 500x sweetness (by weight), Exxx
16. Sorbitol — 0.6x sweetness (by weight), 0.9x sweetness (by food energy), 0.65x energy density, E420
17. Stevia — 250x sweetness (by weight)
18. Tagatose — 0.92x sweetness (by weight), 2.4x sweetness (by food energy), 0.38x energy density
19. Thaumatin — Protein, — 2,000x sweetness (by weight), E957
20. Xylitol — 1.0x sweetness (by weight), 1.7x sweetness (by food energy), 0.6x energy density, E967

[edit] Artificial sugar substitutes

Note that because many of these have little or no food energy, comparison of sweetness based on energy content is not meaningful.

1. Acesulfame potassium — 200x sweetness (by weight), Nutrinova, E950, FDA Approved 2003
2. Alitame — 2,000x sweetness (by weight), Pfizer, Pending FDA Approval
3. Aspartame — 160-200x sweetness (by weight), NutraSweet, E951, FDA Approved 1981
4. Aspartame-Acesulfame-Salt — 350x sweetness (by weight), Twinsweet, E962
5. Cyclamate — 30x sweetness (by weight), Abbott, E952, FDA Banned 1969, pending re-approval
6. Dulcin — 250x sweetness (by weight), FDA Banned 1950
7. Neohesperidine dihydrochalcone — 1,500x sweetness (by weight), E959
8. Neotame — 8,000x sweetness (by weight), NutraSweet, FDA Approved 2002
9. P-4000 — 4,000x sweetness (by weight), FDA Banned 1950
10. Saccharin — 300x sweetness (by weight), E954, FDA Approved 1958
11. Sucralose — 600x sweetness (by weight), Tate & Lyle, FDA Approved 1998

5miraclez
11-23-2006, 04:51 AM
MMMmmm... Diet Coke, my favorite. I grew up when Tab was the only diet soda there was and now I can't stand the stuff.

Our favorite diet drinks are regular punch made with Splenda instead of sugar. All my kids drink it and we can make any flavor they like. The only artificial sweetner we stay away from is Sachrine (sweet-n-low). If my daughter didn't have diet stuff to drink throughout the day, I think she'd let herself get dehydrated. She isn't willing to take a shot for a glass of milk or a non diet drink.

payam7777777
11-23-2006, 08:01 AM
JmeB78,

Thank you.

payam7777777
11-23-2006, 08:03 AM
The only artificial sweetner we stay away from is Sachrine (sweet-n-low).

Why? Cancer concerns? Or what?

payam7777777
11-23-2006, 08:33 AM
I was at a diabetes conference or something last week in Tehran. Some companies had booths there. I have to decide whether or not we can use moderate amounts. They had:

Sweet'n Low (Sacharine)
Canderel (from Germany)
Hernesetas

We kinda are limited to these three choices here in iran.
Has anybody used these?

Sweet'N Low seems not to be a good choice because:


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1f/Sweetnlow.png

Old Sweet 'n Low packet with cancer warning printed on the back

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saccharine










edit:

Alright this is driving me nuts; the leaflet i got from the company rep. distributing Sweet'n Low in iran says: "NO Sacharin"

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

payam7777777
11-23-2006, 10:16 AM
Can we say:

Sacharine is very bad.
Aspartame is bad.
Splenda(Sucralose) is okay.

Emma'sDad
11-23-2006, 10:22 AM
That's the word so far, until "they" start attacking Splenda.

Ellen
11-23-2006, 10:23 AM
Jamie: Do you have a reference for the safety data of use of those products in children? Thanks.

Momof4gr8kids
11-23-2006, 05:20 PM
Ellen, No I do not have the safety information for the different sweeteners, however the ones that have been banned state it, and a list of different ones will give a good starting point for future research of what is avalible in Payams area of the world.

I know you are scared of most sweeteners, but I do not harbor the same fears as I have used some form of artifical sweetener most of my life without any problems.

Momof4gr8kids
11-23-2006, 05:24 PM
That's the word so far, until "they" start attacking Splenda.

Natualists already have started attacking splenda. Google splenda, and you will see a bunch. This was the second site listed on my search.

http://www.holisticmed.com/splenda/

My aunt is one of these people, though I still love her dearly, and I respect her veiw, I sure wish she would say her peace, and leave it at that. It gets kinda old when someone preaches over.

Emma'sDad
11-24-2006, 01:35 PM
Natualists already have started attacking splenda. Google splenda, and you will see a bunch.

There you go, it's official. Apparently we can't feed anything to our kids. I'll just go sit in the corner by myself and drink my bottled water.... On second thought, "they" probably already attacked that as well. :)

Ellen
11-24-2006, 03:49 PM
Ellen, No I do not have the safety information for the different sweeteners, however the ones that have been banned state it, and a list of different ones will give a good starting point for future research of what is avalible in Payams area of the world.

I know you are scared of most sweeteners, but I do not harbor the same fears as I have used some form of artifical sweetener most of my life without any problems.

For the record, I'm not afraid of any sweeteners on the market - they just give me headaches. My son drinks diet soda and doesn't have the same response.

I am concerned about lists of sweeteners without data to prove safety in children and that some will read them and think it's fine to give their children.