View Full Version : Ice Cream as bedtie snack!??
payam7777777
11-11-2006, 09:53 AM
It'ss said? that ice cream my be used as a suitable bedtime treat/snack for kids. But ice cream has a GI of ~60. Am i missing something?
Becky
11-11-2006, 01:51 PM
IMHO, ice cream is a great snack. About 20 g of carbs in a half-cup serving and a bunch of protein to keep the BGs stable overnight. It worked well for me when I was on injections. But to each his or her own...
I admit, I don't know enough about GI to know what "60" means, but then again, I don't use glycemic index as part of my carb counting.
payam7777777
11-11-2006, 03:59 PM
I don't use glycemic index as part of my carb counting.
Give it a try Becky, GI concept basically says that some carbs raise BGs very fast while others dont. For instance if John's BG raise an unbolused 1 carb meal is 50, then 1C of baked potato raises BGs in say 2 minutes while 1C of peanuts raises his BGs in 60 minutes. Now peanuts is apparently a better choice. A low GI diet would be a good choice with people with D.
Here's a headstart:
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http://www.glycemicindex.com/
Hollyb
11-11-2006, 04:23 PM
60 is pretty low GI for a "carb" food. It's not "fair" to compare to peanuts, which are almost entirely protein and fat. By comparison, Cornflakes are 83, French bread in the 90s. So ice cream doesn't spike too fast, and it has protein and fat to "carry" through the night. Not a great choice, perhaps, for an overweight adult but great for many kids.
BTW, I would say low GI is good in moderation. Foods that are too slow (usually because of the fat, not say whole grains) are tricky to cover with fast-acting insulin -- hence the trouble we run into with things like chocolate bars, commercial baking, and pizza.
sammysmom
11-11-2006, 07:44 PM
Oh yeah!!! when my son was on lantus he needed a bedtime snack to hold him through the night..he would drop around 1am but woke up with perfect numbers......mini icecream sandwiches were the best!! he had one at bedtime and it combated that 1am drop...all the fat in the icecream made it possible for him to have steady bg's !! oh yeah and he thought it was "way cool" that every night he got to eat ice cream ......what kid wouldnt think that was cool??!! sorry, i would not feed my kid peanuts every night for his snack, he would think that was boring and i have to say, that we treat sam as a kid first and a diabetic second...so ice cream won!!!..your nephew is 3 yrs old right??? i say "let the 3yr old have icecream"!! he is on a pump, you can bolus him for it....i will venture to say that having icecream at night will
be something that he looks forward to!!!
shannon
Becky
11-11-2006, 08:38 PM
GI concept basically says that some carbs raise BGs very fast while others dont.
Makes sense. It seems like another way to quantify the effects of fat, protein, and fiber on carbohydrate digestion. I take all of these variables into account when bolusing- just without assigning each meal a GI value.
payam7777777
11-12-2006, 02:00 AM
Makes sense. It seems like another way to quantify the effects of fat, protein, and fiber on carbohydrate digestion. I take all of these variables into account when bolusing- just without assigning each meal a GI value.
Like Hollyb said, bolusing for a very very low GI meal/snack is tricky... may result in hypo.
Other parameters afecting the speed of BG raise are:'
- Hot/Warm food raises BGs faster
- Foods that have a bigger percantage of liquid in them.
- Processed food generally raises BGs faster