Navigator insertion & size

[Twinklet]

Emily has to wear it again this week, blinded (we get to real-time it in April for 6 months). Anyway, I thought some of you may be interested in what the device looks like and how it's inserted. I've never used any other CGMS, but the Navigator does seem to be a little more cumbersome than the Minilink:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b179/igglet/IMG_5018.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b179/igglet/IMG_5019.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b179/igglet/IMG_5021.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b179/igglet/IMG_5023.jpg

[Twinklet]

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b179/igglet/IMG_5024.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b179/igglet/IMG_5025.jpg

I hope that Abbott will reduce the profile of the sensor and transmittor when this device eventually gets out of FDA Purgatory. :rolleyes: I think we're going to have some trouble finding places to move this thing every 5 days on Emily's skinny little body!

[Mama2H]

It does look rather large :o Is the piece that stays on the skin hard? If it were a soft plastic you could probably mold it around contours but if it is hard plastic that may be a challenge. Does it tend to rub on her body where you put it? Hailey really complained the last time I tried to put her sensor that far back on her arm, maybe I should try it again.

Thank you so much for posting the pics Andie :D

[rickst29]

and doesn't conform to "curvy" parts of your body.

[Twinklet]

The sensor plate is very rigid. :( Abbott is going to have to make this part smaller to be competitive, especially concerning children.

[Budapest]

This is all nice and well, but WHEN is it going to be available? It has been approved in Europe but they are not selling it even here, as far as I understand.

[Mom2Madi]

Thanks for sharing - I've never seen a Navigator....gosh, it looks really huge! Is it uncomfortable for her? I thought the Minilink was big enough:

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t238/joannbrake/Sites-FullView.jpg

[Twinklet]

She says it's not uncomfortable and it doesn't seem to bother her. It is large enough to draw attention, though! I've been holding out for one, but if it EVER gets through FDA approval I won't buy one until the sensor & transmitter are smaller.

Next time I'll take a photo of the needle. The needle is pretty small, which is good.

[Mom2Madi]

I'm glad it's not uncomfortable for her - if she'd wear it on her leg or stomach you'd never see it. Madi dosen't like to wear her mini-link. Says it dosen't feel good when she rolls on it in her sleep (have tried backside and stomach) and of course dosen't like carrying both the pump size devices with her. She stuff them both in one pump pack but they stick out pretty far.

And that's awesome on the needle size. Don't know if you've ever seen the MM needle - holy cow - it's gigantic. And my kid prefers to have it inserted w/out Emla just to get it over it. I couldn't imagine doing it to myself without numbing cream! She did say it hurt but just for a second then done. Here are some comparison pix with her regular pump site needle then the CMGS needle.

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t238/joannbrake/closeupCGMS-1.jpg http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t238/joannbrake/veryclose-1.jpg

[mamamia]

Our daughter has been pumping for 4 years and we've been getting up in the middle of the night for 4 years to check her BS, because she has NEVER had consistent BSs. At least half of the the nights, we end up having to either give her a bolus for high BS or treat her for a low. We've been interested in starting her on a CGMS but we haven't pursued it because we've been concerned about her having 2 insertion sites on her tiny little body. Her pump insertion sites have been on her bottom for the past 4 years, because it's the only place where she has enough fatty tissue. It just seems like we would run out of "good sites" (with no scar tissue) quickly, if she started having 2 insertion sites on such a limited area of her body. I've noticed a lot of young children on the forum who are using CGMSs. I'm just curious ... I would love to hear from some parents of young children who have CGMs, particularly on the issues of 1) having two insertion sites and 2) having limited places on their little bodies to do site changes.

[vettechmomof2]

Our daughter has been pumping for 4 years and we've been getting up in the middle of the night for 4 years to check her BS, because she has NEVER had consistent BSs. At least half of the the nights, we end up having to either give her a bolus for high BS or treat her for a low. We've been interested in starting her on a CGMS but we haven't pursued it because we've been concerned about her having 2 insertion sites on her tiny little body. Her pump insertion sites have been on her bottom for the past 4 years, because it's the only place where she has enough fatty tissue. It just seems like we would run out of "good sites" (with no scar tissue) quickly, if she started having 2 insertion sites on such a limited area of her body. I've noticed a lot of young children on the forum who are using CGMSs. I'm just curious ... I would love to hear from some parents of young children who have CGMs, particularly on the issues of 1) having two insertion sites and 2) having limited places on their little bodies to do site changes.
I do not know the age of your child but mine was diagnoesed at 7(and 1 month). She has never had rela issues with pods or things but does not like seeing the needles. She has no issues with wearing 2 sites(1 pod and 1 cgms). We haven't had realy issues with placement and my daughter is very petite, although she really has grown since diagnosis. We use arms, belly and butt for sites. For us those places work best. While using the arms we try to put both pod and cgms on the arms(1 on each side) to rest the butt and belly then.
Allene

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http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t238/joannbrake/veryclose-1.jpg

I WON'T be showing my needle-phobic ds this photo!!!!!!!!:eek: But it is just what I wanted to see! :) Thanks for sharing.

[Twinklet]

I just pulled a Navigator sensor, so here is the comparison photo of the sensor with an insulin needle and Emily's infusion set (Cleo 90 6 mm):

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b179/igglet/sitecomparison.jpg

I looked through the book and cannot find how big the size of the introducer needle is, but the sensor itself is small. It goes in at a 90 degree angle.

[mph]

Great picture!!!!!!
This makes the syringe look bigger - or at least the other devices do NOT look any larger than a syringe! Just what my ds needs to see ;).
Thanks for sharing!